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Better 6mm (not 243W) for hunting? Which one?
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<blockquote data-quote="BrentM" data-source="post: 1895751" data-attributes="member: 61747"><p>I understand and don't disagree with any of it. It's a margins and hit factor game. If I am shooting PRS and banging steel at 1000 yards, 2900 fps is not losing a lot to 3300. If I am now going to make a 1 shot attempt on a game animal over a variation of terrain and have 400 fps more umph to reduce bad wind call errors I am gaining about 1 moa less drift in 10 mph wind. So at 700 I've shrunk my wez 7". My elevation is now almost 4 moa different at 700. 28" less drop also means that I am not playing with a LRF if that goat is moving around a little. </p><p></p><p>The cost of it all is the balancing act. A longer barrel life generally means we'll shoot the rifle more. That is important to me as we shoot and know that cartridge well. But what about the 338 guys that practice with a 6.5 creed. Does that mean they can't shoot that 338 well? No it does not. So if you have a hunter that is bit of a barrel burner but reduces your margin of error and has more capability, its tough to argue against it. When I go wolf hunting I take my 6.5-284 or now my 6.5 PRC vs a my creed or 243 or 204 etc normally. It kicks a little more, but man, that additional 300 plus over the creed is a security blanket. Will it make the wolf deader, nope. Would I use any of those rifles, yes I would. I just happen to like the 135 at 3100 out of my 22" prc vs 2720 out of my creed a lot more from a mental perspective. One of creeds was built specifically for hunting and use in a back pack hunt or saddle scabbard situation. It weighs 8.5 lbs with the can vs my chassis prc at 10. I just always seem to reach for that PRC in the end.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrentM, post: 1895751, member: 61747"] I understand and don't disagree with any of it. It's a margins and hit factor game. If I am shooting PRS and banging steel at 1000 yards, 2900 fps is not losing a lot to 3300. If I am now going to make a 1 shot attempt on a game animal over a variation of terrain and have 400 fps more umph to reduce bad wind call errors I am gaining about 1 moa less drift in 10 mph wind. So at 700 I've shrunk my wez 7". My elevation is now almost 4 moa different at 700. 28" less drop also means that I am not playing with a LRF if that goat is moving around a little. The cost of it all is the balancing act. A longer barrel life generally means we'll shoot the rifle more. That is important to me as we shoot and know that cartridge well. But what about the 338 guys that practice with a 6.5 creed. Does that mean they can't shoot that 338 well? No it does not. So if you have a hunter that is bit of a barrel burner but reduces your margin of error and has more capability, its tough to argue against it. When I go wolf hunting I take my 6.5-284 or now my 6.5 PRC vs a my creed or 243 or 204 etc normally. It kicks a little more, but man, that additional 300 plus over the creed is a security blanket. Will it make the wolf deader, nope. Would I use any of those rifles, yes I would. I just happen to like the 135 at 3100 out of my 22" prc vs 2720 out of my creed a lot more from a mental perspective. One of creeds was built specifically for hunting and use in a back pack hunt or saddle scabbard situation. It weighs 8.5 lbs with the can vs my chassis prc at 10. I just always seem to reach for that PRC in the end. [/QUOTE]
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