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<blockquote data-quote="Lightvarmint" data-source="post: 255566"><p>Jeff,</p><p></p><p>The HATS long range kills could never equal the number of the 300 SMK kills due to the fact that they have been around for so long. But the 300 SMK does not have to to be a better choice today (1/20/09) since something else is available. Based on the number of orders, there are shooters out there that are ready for something new for their shooting sticks.</p><p></p><p>But then again, the number of long range kills from a 338 Allen Magnum will never equal the number of long range kills from a 300 Win Mag. But the Allen Magnum is way better suited for the task than the 300 Win Mag.</p><p></p><p>The post originator is looking for the best he can get based on his posting and the title to his posting. More kills needed...... I don't think so. I have more kills with the HATS than with the 300 gr SMKs. The performance out of the HATS is much more predictable than with the 300 SMK out of my guns..... </p><p></p><p>The 300 grain SMK has been the standard for a long time..... But, then so again was the 30-30, 270 and the 30-06. That is all old news. </p><p></p><p>What we are talking about here is new developments and leading technology. There are better chamberings now as well as better bullets for the long range job.</p><p></p><p>Again, he wants to maximize his rig. Part of that equation is with a leading edge technology projectile. </p><p></p><p>Come on, you can take a 338 Edge with a 30" barrel using the 265 grain HATS @3100 fps and shoot it against the 338 Cheytac-based case also with a 30" barrel using the 300 SMK @ 3250 and the edge will surpass the Cheytac-based case before 1450 yards. </p><p></p><p>To me it is more cost efficient to spend a few bucks on some high BC bullets than to spend several thousand on a rifle with a huge case shooting the old 300 grain SMKs with 40 grains more powder and still get spanked by a RUM-based case using the HATS....... Just the facts.</p><p></p><p>This is like bolt on performance upgrades for automobiles..... </p><p></p><p>Now, I don't know what to do with that 1.75" diameter new action for the Cheytac-based case that is on the Big Brown Truck today. Just seems to me that it is more than is necessary for me at this point since I am sure the 338 Lapua Improved and the 338/300 RUM will take care of my needs in the 338 caliber.......</p><p></p><p>LV</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lightvarmint, post: 255566"] Jeff, The HATS long range kills could never equal the number of the 300 SMK kills due to the fact that they have been around for so long. But the 300 SMK does not have to to be a better choice today (1/20/09) since something else is available. Based on the number of orders, there are shooters out there that are ready for something new for their shooting sticks. But then again, the number of long range kills from a 338 Allen Magnum will never equal the number of long range kills from a 300 Win Mag. But the Allen Magnum is way better suited for the task than the 300 Win Mag. The post originator is looking for the best he can get based on his posting and the title to his posting. More kills needed...... I don't think so. I have more kills with the HATS than with the 300 gr SMKs. The performance out of the HATS is much more predictable than with the 300 SMK out of my guns..... The 300 grain SMK has been the standard for a long time..... But, then so again was the 30-30, 270 and the 30-06. That is all old news. What we are talking about here is new developments and leading technology. There are better chamberings now as well as better bullets for the long range job. Again, he wants to maximize his rig. Part of that equation is with a leading edge technology projectile. Come on, you can take a 338 Edge with a 30" barrel using the 265 grain HATS @3100 fps and shoot it against the 338 Cheytac-based case also with a 30" barrel using the 300 SMK @ 3250 and the edge will surpass the Cheytac-based case before 1450 yards. To me it is more cost efficient to spend a few bucks on some high BC bullets than to spend several thousand on a rifle with a huge case shooting the old 300 grain SMKs with 40 grains more powder and still get spanked by a RUM-based case using the HATS....... Just the facts. This is like bolt on performance upgrades for automobiles..... Now, I don't know what to do with that 1.75" diameter new action for the Cheytac-based case that is on the Big Brown Truck today. Just seems to me that it is more than is necessary for me at this point since I am sure the 338 Lapua Improved and the 338/300 RUM will take care of my needs in the 338 caliber....... LV [/QUOTE]
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