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Best Ideas for Accuracy - FRH vs. SRM type hunters explain their techniques details.
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<blockquote data-quote="Brent" data-source="post: 3997" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Hi Darryl,</p><p></p><p>I've used both methods for a while now and use a spotter set up with a spotting scope (no bigeyes yet) or R2 reticle in another NF that works well to see hits. The bigeyes should have a distinct advantage for extended viewing for sure. When your zeroed in on a target though, the NF R2 or Leopold 12-40 is plenty adequate for seeing hits.</p><p></p><p>When you fire a spotter and it hits 1' high and 1' right, do you assume this would be the center of a group if fired? </p><p></p><p>You are in fact dialing to move the crosshair up and over to the impact after the crosshair is centered on the original aimpont, thus forcing the shooter to move the crosshairs via repositioning the "gun" back to the aimpont consequently moving the bore along with to the aimpoint as well. Humor me, <img src="http://images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> some may not understand this method, also known as the "one shot zero".</p><p></p><p>The same problem results as with the one shot zero though. you could be zeroing your rifle on a impact that is NOT representative of the average dispersion, UNLESS a group is fired and crosshairs are moved to the "Center" of this. Don't you agree? </p><p></p><p>This beggs the question, "how far off from center dispersion did the scope get dialed to if only one shot was fired?" I would think at long range this is a most critical point to consider? Do you think only one shot to verify your adjustment "center" is valid? I have never counted on just one, as the next couple could go to the other extreme. <img src="http://images/icons/confused.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>How do you guys reconcile actual "center of group" drop data collected before the hunt if it's different by 1 moa or something from the "adjusted from a spotter zero?" Split the difference, go with the single spotter zero, or revert to the collected known data? </p><p></p><p>The R2 is the "cats ***" when LR ranging in any weather, unless of course you have a Vector or Russian unit. <img src="http://images/icons/cool.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> I really doubt I'll need anything else now but man one of those little Vectors would be nice!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brent, post: 3997, member: 99"] Hi Darryl, I've used both methods for a while now and use a spotter set up with a spotting scope (no bigeyes yet) or R2 reticle in another NF that works well to see hits. The bigeyes should have a distinct advantage for extended viewing for sure. When your zeroed in on a target though, the NF R2 or Leopold 12-40 is plenty adequate for seeing hits. When you fire a spotter and it hits 1' high and 1' right, do you assume this would be the center of a group if fired? You are in fact dialing to move the crosshair up and over to the impact after the crosshair is centered on the original aimpont, thus forcing the shooter to move the crosshairs via repositioning the "gun" back to the aimpont consequently moving the bore along with to the aimpoint as well. Humor me, [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] some may not understand this method, also known as the "one shot zero". The same problem results as with the one shot zero though. you could be zeroing your rifle on a impact that is NOT representative of the average dispersion, UNLESS a group is fired and crosshairs are moved to the "Center" of this. Don't you agree? This beggs the question, "how far off from center dispersion did the scope get dialed to if only one shot was fired?" I would think at long range this is a most critical point to consider? Do you think only one shot to verify your adjustment "center" is valid? I have never counted on just one, as the next couple could go to the other extreme. [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] How do you guys reconcile actual "center of group" drop data collected before the hunt if it's different by 1 moa or something from the "adjusted from a spotter zero?" Split the difference, go with the single spotter zero, or revert to the collected known data? The R2 is the "cats ***" when LR ranging in any weather, unless of course you have a Vector or Russian unit. [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img] I really doubt I'll need anything else now but man one of those little Vectors would be nice! [/QUOTE]
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