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<blockquote data-quote="MTLIVIN" data-source="post: 1351035" data-attributes="member: 42384"><p>Im surprised to hear of such success with the 140 VLD on direct large-bone hits, I haven't had the same results. My first questionable result was with a 140 VLD on antelope at 550 yards with my 6.5x284, it was quartering toward me and I shot and hit on the point of the shoulder (where the bottom of the shoulder blade meets the foreleg), Antelope dropped but needed another shot when I got there. When I cleaned it I found very a messed up shoulder but very little internal damage, and I found the bullet at about 140 grains and bent midway at about 30 degrees, it merely tumbled and didn't expand at all after hitting the bone.</p><p></p><p>The second unsatisfactory result was on a cow elk my wife shot with her 7mm-08 loaded with 140 VLDs at 2850 fps. Her first shot was low and hit the elbow knuckle dead center. It was still high enough on the animal that it would have taken out the lower portion of the heart if it made it into the vitals, but upon cleaning the animal there wasn't even a fragment that made it through that large knuckle bone and into the vitals. Her second shot did all the killing on that elk.</p><p></p><p>These are a couple of my results, they have performed nicely with typically quick kills on many other animals but there is some variability to what the lighter VLDs will do on large bone hits. Only a monolithic copper is really designed to withstand that kind of impact anyways so I still use bergers, I just aim a bit differently on quartering to shots and I switch to accubonds for really big critters like AK moose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MTLIVIN, post: 1351035, member: 42384"] Im surprised to hear of such success with the 140 VLD on direct large-bone hits, I haven't had the same results. My first questionable result was with a 140 VLD on antelope at 550 yards with my 6.5x284, it was quartering toward me and I shot and hit on the point of the shoulder (where the bottom of the shoulder blade meets the foreleg), Antelope dropped but needed another shot when I got there. When I cleaned it I found very a messed up shoulder but very little internal damage, and I found the bullet at about 140 grains and bent midway at about 30 degrees, it merely tumbled and didn't expand at all after hitting the bone. The second unsatisfactory result was on a cow elk my wife shot with her 7mm-08 loaded with 140 VLDs at 2850 fps. Her first shot was low and hit the elbow knuckle dead center. It was still high enough on the animal that it would have taken out the lower portion of the heart if it made it into the vitals, but upon cleaning the animal there wasn't even a fragment that made it through that large knuckle bone and into the vitals. Her second shot did all the killing on that elk. These are a couple of my results, they have performed nicely with typically quick kills on many other animals but there is some variability to what the lighter VLDs will do on large bone hits. Only a monolithic copper is really designed to withstand that kind of impact anyways so I still use bergers, I just aim a bit differently on quartering to shots and I switch to accubonds for really big critters like AK moose. [/QUOTE]
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