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berger vld or barnes for long range
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<blockquote data-quote="Timber338" data-source="post: 804831" data-attributes="member: 33822"><p>Just to give another data point, last year me and a buddy both shot bull elk at medium ranges, both using a .338 210 TTSX. Below is the breakdown of each shot and specifics of how the bullet performed:</p><p></p><p>my bull:</p><p> - impact velocity ~1980 fps</p><p> - bull quartering towards me, bullet hit the leading shoulder hard and broke near side ribs. center punched both lunges and severed the pulmonary artery just above the heart.</p><p> - bullet broke ribs on far side and exited with ~1/2" hole</p><p> - bull died right where I shot it</p><p></p><p>friends bull</p><p> - impact velocity ~2160</p><p> - bull nearly directly facing shooter, bullet entered front chest, damaged both lungs, and also (ironically) severed the pulmonary artery just above the heart.</p><p> - bullet did not exit, stuck in the guts, did not recover.</p><p> - bull somehow managed to walk ~50 yards...</p><p></p><p>Tissue damage around wound cavity was not extensive. This goes towards the previous comment by Engineering101... you can kill elk and minimize tissue damage.</p><p></p><p>But, what if either of these bullets had missed the pulmonary artery? I guess I just was not impressed with the wound channel... I've shot animals with Accubonds from 50 - 350 yds that literally liquify the internal organs, much like guys here see with the Bergers at just about any range. I like the accuracy I get with Barnes bullets, but I think they leave me wanting more in the way of damage to internal organs. At least that's where my head is at right now...</p><p></p><p>Have a box of Accubond LR's waiting to be loaded, and we'll see how they perform this Fall. But they have to shoot good first which is a total unknown at this point...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Timber338, post: 804831, member: 33822"] Just to give another data point, last year me and a buddy both shot bull elk at medium ranges, both using a .338 210 TTSX. Below is the breakdown of each shot and specifics of how the bullet performed: my bull: - impact velocity ~1980 fps - bull quartering towards me, bullet hit the leading shoulder hard and broke near side ribs. center punched both lunges and severed the pulmonary artery just above the heart. - bullet broke ribs on far side and exited with ~1/2" hole - bull died right where I shot it friends bull - impact velocity ~2160 - bull nearly directly facing shooter, bullet entered front chest, damaged both lungs, and also (ironically) severed the pulmonary artery just above the heart. - bullet did not exit, stuck in the guts, did not recover. - bull somehow managed to walk ~50 yards... Tissue damage around wound cavity was not extensive. This goes towards the previous comment by Engineering101... you can kill elk and minimize tissue damage. But, what if either of these bullets had missed the pulmonary artery? I guess I just was not impressed with the wound channel... I've shot animals with Accubonds from 50 - 350 yds that literally liquify the internal organs, much like guys here see with the Bergers at just about any range. I like the accuracy I get with Barnes bullets, but I think they leave me wanting more in the way of damage to internal organs. At least that's where my head is at right now... Have a box of Accubond LR's waiting to be loaded, and we'll see how they perform this Fall. But they have to shoot good first which is a total unknown at this point... [/QUOTE]
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