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<blockquote data-quote="tooth doc" data-source="post: 1779484" data-attributes="member: 52018"><p>I have been and still am a barnes shooter, but several years ago started using 168 ,bergers in my long range 7 wsm for hunting because that wS the bullet and load i used for comp. This is a hybrid for target and hunting and decided to try it. I have had zero failures, nothing but humane one shot kills. Mule deer, big buck, 624 yds, went 2 steps fell over. Huge eland bull, 56 in neck. 568 yds, on shot, bullet recovered in the heart. Do you think he died? Kudu bull 550yds, spined and needed a finisher. Went nowhere! Red heartabeast 500 yds, 1 shot through shoulders. Mt reebok 556 yds, dead. Common reedbuck 420 yds 1 shot, dead, waterbuck 220 yds through shoulders, dead. Kudu 340 yds quartering shot behind shoulder, dead. 450 lb black bear, i shot behind shoulder, dead. And several other. I have been home since wed 12/10, from another africa trip. Took blaser 470 double rifle and a new 28 nosler shooting 195 vld's. Killef a 27 in roan with one shot behind shoulder,at 250 yd, and a huge bush pig at 35 yds with one shot behind shoulder. I haver never expected the raw penetration that i have seen from barnes. But i dont expect that from sierra game kings either, and they are spectacular killers on broadside shots. What do i get from bergers? Spectacular long range accuracy, .25 moa from these 2 rifles. Have not used the nosler to compete with , yet, but have used the 7 wsm to 1500 yds with phenomenal results. I for one think bergers are gr8 hunting bullets if you remember what their strengths and weaknesses are and use accordingly. Put a beeger in the RIGHT PLACE, IT WILL WORK, THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE. No bullet made, makes up for poor placement, which is where most failures occur. Just my 2 cents. I stll use barnes in rifles i have set up for barnes, but belive the barnes will stay in these rifles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tooth doc, post: 1779484, member: 52018"] I have been and still am a barnes shooter, but several years ago started using 168 ,bergers in my long range 7 wsm for hunting because that wS the bullet and load i used for comp. This is a hybrid for target and hunting and decided to try it. I have had zero failures, nothing but humane one shot kills. Mule deer, big buck, 624 yds, went 2 steps fell over. Huge eland bull, 56 in neck. 568 yds, on shot, bullet recovered in the heart. Do you think he died? Kudu bull 550yds, spined and needed a finisher. Went nowhere! Red heartabeast 500 yds, 1 shot through shoulders. Mt reebok 556 yds, dead. Common reedbuck 420 yds 1 shot, dead, waterbuck 220 yds through shoulders, dead. Kudu 340 yds quartering shot behind shoulder, dead. 450 lb black bear, i shot behind shoulder, dead. And several other. I have been home since wed 12/10, from another africa trip. Took blaser 470 double rifle and a new 28 nosler shooting 195 vld's. Killef a 27 in roan with one shot behind shoulder,at 250 yd, and a huge bush pig at 35 yds with one shot behind shoulder. I haver never expected the raw penetration that i have seen from barnes. But i dont expect that from sierra game kings either, and they are spectacular killers on broadside shots. What do i get from bergers? Spectacular long range accuracy, .25 moa from these 2 rifles. Have not used the nosler to compete with , yet, but have used the 7 wsm to 1500 yds with phenomenal results. I for one think bergers are gr8 hunting bullets if you remember what their strengths and weaknesses are and use accordingly. Put a beeger in the RIGHT PLACE, IT WILL WORK, THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE. No bullet made, makes up for poor placement, which is where most failures occur. Just my 2 cents. I stll use barnes in rifles i have set up for barnes, but belive the barnes will stay in these rifles. [/QUOTE]
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