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Berger Fail on elk
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<blockquote data-quote="Lefty7mmstw" data-source="post: 897721" data-attributes="member: 48043"><p>???? why are you here then bud????</p><p> </p><p>The only ethics I'll preach here is only go to the max. range <strong><em><u>YOU</u></em></strong> can cleanly harvest a critter. Broz, Montana, and a few of the others are going <strong><em><u>way</u></em></strong> over my comfort zone, but I also hardly use a rangefunder and shoot from sitting when a critter shows. I personally top out around 700 yards at present and won't go over that. I'm looking at getting a rig and gear together to pass the 1000 yard mark, but that'll be a few years away.</p><p> </p><p>As to the bullet splash, a common occurance with to light for caliber for the design. I had a 120 grain 7mm sierra splash once out of a 7-08 and had to use a 44mag and a left hook to get the critter down for good. I see a critter evry few years that has a chunk blown out of it with a 22 centerfire also, as people don't seem to get the memo that varmint bullets don't work well on deer.</p><p> </p><p>Shoot them with a bullet heavy enough for the caliber considering the bullet make used and sleep well at night. I personally like fast time of flite and have put many 140 grain 7mms from sierra and nosler through bone and still got the critter; same with 30 cal 165 interlocks. On the flip side I'm working with both a 7rum and a 300 rum with heavy match pills and wouldn't dream of shooting lightweight/midweight match pills at the speeds I'm generating unless I'm popping rodents, etc.. The heavy bullet loads will push my max range a bit but the jury is out on how far.</p><p> </p><p>To each his own. I for one would appreciate it if some would ask and learn a bit more and gripe and whine a bit less. </p><p>The mention of a 90 yard run on a well shot critter reminds me of a white tail doe I popped once with my 300 using 165 hornady. I was expecting 400 yard plus shooting and ended up sighting down the barrel as the doe was to close to use the scope. I blew both lungs out the other side (along with some shoulder meat) and she still made it 150 yards. It took half an hour to find her in yellow creek grass with a plowed field around it. You can get a critter to persevere with any bullet; it takes a good hunter/ tracker to sort out the mess afterward. Calling the bullet names afterward is immature and shallow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lefty7mmstw, post: 897721, member: 48043"] ???? why are you here then bud???? The only ethics I'll preach here is only go to the max. range [B][I][U]YOU[/U][/I][/B] can cleanly harvest a critter. Broz, Montana, and a few of the others are going [B][I][U]way[/U][/I][/B] over my comfort zone, but I also hardly use a rangefunder and shoot from sitting when a critter shows. I personally top out around 700 yards at present and won't go over that. I'm looking at getting a rig and gear together to pass the 1000 yard mark, but that'll be a few years away. As to the bullet splash, a common occurance with to light for caliber for the design. I had a 120 grain 7mm sierra splash once out of a 7-08 and had to use a 44mag and a left hook to get the critter down for good. I see a critter evry few years that has a chunk blown out of it with a 22 centerfire also, as people don't seem to get the memo that varmint bullets don't work well on deer. Shoot them with a bullet heavy enough for the caliber considering the bullet make used and sleep well at night. I personally like fast time of flite and have put many 140 grain 7mms from sierra and nosler through bone and still got the critter; same with 30 cal 165 interlocks. On the flip side I'm working with both a 7rum and a 300 rum with heavy match pills and wouldn't dream of shooting lightweight/midweight match pills at the speeds I'm generating unless I'm popping rodents, etc.. The heavy bullet loads will push my max range a bit but the jury is out on how far. To each his own. I for one would appreciate it if some would ask and learn a bit more and gripe and whine a bit less. The mention of a 90 yard run on a well shot critter reminds me of a white tail doe I popped once with my 300 using 165 hornady. I was expecting 400 yard plus shooting and ended up sighting down the barrel as the doe was to close to use the scope. I blew both lungs out the other side (along with some shoulder meat) and she still made it 150 yards. It took half an hour to find her in yellow creek grass with a plowed field around it. You can get a critter to persevere with any bullet; it takes a good hunter/ tracker to sort out the mess afterward. Calling the bullet names afterward is immature and shallow. [/QUOTE]
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