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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 25294" data-source="post: 1559429"><p>Ok this is getting a little silly..</p><p></p><p>I'm not knocking Bergers one bit but they have a certain place, and it's not shoulder shots at close range period! </p><p></p><p>I've personally seen a 155 Berger fired from a .308 win completely explode at 75 yards, my girlfriend shot a bull in the center of the shoulder with it. I had to take the rifle and run down a 3 legged elk, she felt terrible about it. </p><p>I found a piece of the jacket against the ribs, there just wasn't enough bullet left to make it into the carcass. </p><p></p><p>I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday who's an extremely accomplished elk hunter/Marine Sniper, and he just watched his buddy wound a cow at 300 yards with a 195 EOL from a 28 Nos. </p><p>The bullet hit center shoulder and completely blew up, leaving chunks of flesh and shrapnel all over the snow, they tracked it a half mile and finally put her down I saw the wound picture it was a mess. </p><p></p><p>It's not marketing guys.. Bonded bullets and monolithics are the only way you are going to reliably punch through a heavy shoulder bone (at close range that is). </p><p>I'm sure Bergers are more forgiving the heavier they are, 230-250 etc.. </p><p></p><p>I've tested Bergers, Partitions, TSX's, Accubonds, and ELD-X bullets on wet news paper and green wood at 75 yards, I know it's not the same as real flesh but in every case the Bergers, and Accubonds blew apart and separated from the jacket. </p><p>ELD-x's were better but only penetrated 1/2 the depth of Partitions and TSX's, </p><p>don't believe me then test it yourselves but please don't take stupid advice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 25294, post: 1559429"] Ok this is getting a little silly.. I'm not knocking Bergers one bit but they have a certain place, and it's not shoulder shots at close range period! I've personally seen a 155 Berger fired from a .308 win completely explode at 75 yards, my girlfriend shot a bull in the center of the shoulder with it. I had to take the rifle and run down a 3 legged elk, she felt terrible about it. I found a piece of the jacket against the ribs, there just wasn't enough bullet left to make it into the carcass. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday who's an extremely accomplished elk hunter/Marine Sniper, and he just watched his buddy wound a cow at 300 yards with a 195 EOL from a 28 Nos. The bullet hit center shoulder and completely blew up, leaving chunks of flesh and shrapnel all over the snow, they tracked it a half mile and finally put her down I saw the wound picture it was a mess. It's not marketing guys.. Bonded bullets and monolithics are the only way you are going to reliably punch through a heavy shoulder bone (at close range that is). I'm sure Bergers are more forgiving the heavier they are, 230-250 etc.. I've tested Bergers, Partitions, TSX's, Accubonds, and ELD-X bullets on wet news paper and green wood at 75 yards, I know it's not the same as real flesh but in every case the Bergers, and Accubonds blew apart and separated from the jacket. ELD-x's were better but only penetrated 1/2 the depth of Partitions and TSX's, don't believe me then test it yourselves but please don't take stupid advice. [/QUOTE]
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