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<blockquote data-quote="cowboy" data-source="post: 505348" data-attributes="member: 8833"><p>I couldn't agree with Team Roper any more than if I wrote the above myself. The only difference between what he said I have experienced is I was loyal to other bullet for 40+ years.</p><p></p><p>I have taken at least 3 elk and have seen at least that many more taken with the 168 - .284 VLD by others that were shot inside 75 yds. NO PROBLEM. In addition we use that same bullet and have taken many deer, antelope, bear and one sheep so I'd say we have pretty much got a pretty good idea of what it will do. We bone everything right after the picture taking at the kill site as well as doing all our own meat processing and my experiences are the same as stated by Team Roper. </p><p></p><p>I've read all the comments on the Bergers and short range bewares and I have yet to see that it acts like an egg up against a brick wall or penetrates like a FMJ and flies straight through. In fact my thoughts are just the opposite - I think it is the best dang short range bullet that I have used - it penetrates, mass internal destruction, and very limited blood shot meat.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that I have come from shooting Nosler partitions for many years (talk about blood shot meat), to converting to Barnes for about 20 plus more years and then to Berger VLD's.</p><p>If you want to start a discussion about short range bullets - ask me about what a Barnes triple shock does at short range - I have about 5 or 6 stories to tell </p><p>you.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line is there are a lot of good bullets out there and they will all pretty much do the job. I was extremely reserved about even trying the Bergers. I have a son that wanted to try them and I told him he was nuts shooting a target bullet at big game. After seeing him take about 6 different one shot kills in a season I reluctantly said I'd see if I could get them to fly straight out of one of my rifles. Been using them ever since. I'm either shooting better or the antelope, deer, bear, elk etc. up here in Montana have gotten weaker because they just don't go very far after a good hit at any distance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cowboy, post: 505348, member: 8833"] I couldn't agree with Team Roper any more than if I wrote the above myself. The only difference between what he said I have experienced is I was loyal to other bullet for 40+ years. I have taken at least 3 elk and have seen at least that many more taken with the 168 - .284 VLD by others that were shot inside 75 yds. NO PROBLEM. In addition we use that same bullet and have taken many deer, antelope, bear and one sheep so I'd say we have pretty much got a pretty good idea of what it will do. We bone everything right after the picture taking at the kill site as well as doing all our own meat processing and my experiences are the same as stated by Team Roper. I've read all the comments on the Bergers and short range bewares and I have yet to see that it acts like an egg up against a brick wall or penetrates like a FMJ and flies straight through. In fact my thoughts are just the opposite - I think it is the best dang short range bullet that I have used - it penetrates, mass internal destruction, and very limited blood shot meat. Keep in mind that I have come from shooting Nosler partitions for many years (talk about blood shot meat), to converting to Barnes for about 20 plus more years and then to Berger VLD's. If you want to start a discussion about short range bullets - ask me about what a Barnes triple shock does at short range - I have about 5 or 6 stories to tell you. Bottom line is there are a lot of good bullets out there and they will all pretty much do the job. I was extremely reserved about even trying the Bergers. I have a son that wanted to try them and I told him he was nuts shooting a target bullet at big game. After seeing him take about 6 different one shot kills in a season I reluctantly said I'd see if I could get them to fly straight out of one of my rifles. Been using them ever since. I'm either shooting better or the antelope, deer, bear, elk etc. up here in Montana have gotten weaker because they just don't go very far after a good hit at any distance. [/QUOTE]
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