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Berger Bullets vs Controlled Expansion Bullets
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<blockquote data-quote="LongBomber" data-source="post: 453191" data-attributes="member: 14435"><p>I have no problem using bergers for hunting. Next season I will try out the 300 hybrid and see what she can do. I have seen 140's from a 260 reminton fail to penetrate from about 30 yards, point of the shoulder shot. The deer was finished of with a 308 shooting winchester grey box. But I have seen some serious bang-flops from other VLD shots. Put any bullet through the heart of a game animal and it will die - period. </p><p> </p><p>However I do question people talking about how much energy is transfered to an animal with a pass through shot. Even on a pencil through the bullet will be significantly slowed. Due to the way energy is caculated the speed of a bullet has a drastic effect on the energy remaining. If a 165gr tsx exits a deer at 500fps who cares? It has less than 100ft-ibs left. Especially when it started with 2500ish when it hit. Even if it exited at 1000fps it would only have 370ft-ibs left. I read some testing with ballistics jelly, shooting through a 24" block if I remember right, with two chrony's set up. The remaining velocities and energies were so low that it would not matter one bit that all of the energy is not transfered.</p><p> </p><p>I use accubonds and TSX for hunting but I would not think twice about using a berger. Just put it through the heart lungs from a reasonable angle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LongBomber, post: 453191, member: 14435"] I have no problem using bergers for hunting. Next season I will try out the 300 hybrid and see what she can do. I have seen 140's from a 260 reminton fail to penetrate from about 30 yards, point of the shoulder shot. The deer was finished of with a 308 shooting winchester grey box. But I have seen some serious bang-flops from other VLD shots. Put any bullet through the heart of a game animal and it will die - period. However I do question people talking about how much energy is transfered to an animal with a pass through shot. Even on a pencil through the bullet will be significantly slowed. Due to the way energy is caculated the speed of a bullet has a drastic effect on the energy remaining. If a 165gr tsx exits a deer at 500fps who cares? It has less than 100ft-ibs left. Especially when it started with 2500ish when it hit. Even if it exited at 1000fps it would only have 370ft-ibs left. I read some testing with ballistics jelly, shooting through a 24" block if I remember right, with two chrony's set up. The remaining velocities and energies were so low that it would not matter one bit that all of the energy is not transfered. I use accubonds and TSX for hunting but I would not think twice about using a berger. Just put it through the heart lungs from a reasonable angle. [/QUOTE]
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