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Berger 338 300 gr OTM tip/cavity
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<blockquote data-quote="Joe King" data-source="post: 732372" data-attributes="member: 47325"><p>So your saying Walt Berger, and Eric Stecker are blowing smoke up our hinney's? And the 175gr rem power points are going to reach 1000yrds with just as much energy as a 180gr VLD, with comparable wind deflection? There's no trick to it, it is science, nobody has ever tried to disprove ballistic science , rather you have guys like Brian Litz that use that science and then improve on it. But hey since he didn't come long 100 or 50 years ago he can't know anything right? Never mind the guy has made some pretty significant advances in bullet engineering the last few years. And if Berger is so full of it then tell me why the #2 guy at Berger is an active member on here constantly collecting results from folks, and standing behind their product to a degree I've never witnessed before.</p><p></p><p>The edge and SMK didn't exist in Elmers day, There's a lot of advancements that we have and use to good effect that have only come about in the last 20years. If you don't want to take advantage of them that's your deal, those advancements and employing them to make accurate shots at ever increasing ranges is what places like this site are all about, no tricks, no smoke, no mirrors, it is applied science. Folks that are willing to learn, and understand this science, willing to put out the effort to develop the skill set, have proven that. As they say the proof is in the pudding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joe King, post: 732372, member: 47325"] So your saying Walt Berger, and Eric Stecker are blowing smoke up our hinney's? And the 175gr rem power points are going to reach 1000yrds with just as much energy as a 180gr VLD, with comparable wind deflection? There's no trick to it, it is science, nobody has ever tried to disprove ballistic science , rather you have guys like Brian Litz that use that science and then improve on it. But hey since he didn't come long 100 or 50 years ago he can't know anything right? Never mind the guy has made some pretty significant advances in bullet engineering the last few years. And if Berger is so full of it then tell me why the #2 guy at Berger is an active member on here constantly collecting results from folks, and standing behind their product to a degree I've never witnessed before. The edge and SMK didn't exist in Elmers day, There's a lot of advancements that we have and use to good effect that have only come about in the last 20years. If you don't want to take advantage of them that's your deal, those advancements and employing them to make accurate shots at ever increasing ranges is what places like this site are all about, no tricks, no smoke, no mirrors, it is applied science. Folks that are willing to learn, and understand this science, willing to put out the effort to develop the skill set, have proven that. As they say the proof is in the pudding. [/QUOTE]
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