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<blockquote data-quote="Muddyboots" data-source="post: 2300855" data-attributes="member: 63925"><p>Wow! 6 years old, 24 pages, still kicking thread!</p><p>Bear awareness is still not employed nor deployed in most of the campsites I have been around in bear country. I am usually laughed at when I use standard bear protection protocols. Even for black bears. I just don't get it. Same folks are fastidious on scent control while hunting but disregard simple bear safety protocols around camp. This problem then carries over to the next poor unsuspecting hunter that camps in same area where bears have had run if the place. I hunt a spot in CO, where a site 100 yards from me was no doubt causing a potential dangerous situation. They were laughing at a bear that kept trying to enter their tent. Really? </p><p></p><p>Why is this so difficult to use bear safety in campsites? Food cooked in tents, food scraps tossed nearby, food not hung up away from campsite, simple hygiene of toothpaste etc in tents. All are bear attractors. This same attitude carries into the woods. I don't see folks quartering and hanging quarters up 100 yds or more from actual kill site. Yeah, its a royal PITA but not likely to have any problems returning to the carcass then. Bear or other predators will gladly munch on a bloody carcass.</p><p></p><p>I totally concur that comparing a hunter returning to retrieve from a kill site to a backpacker are two entirely different encounter scenarios. Bear demeanor is completely different and requires different response. Startled versus angry and territorial presents major oh crap. </p><p></p><p>Even using full awareness, solid bear safety, if you are in woods long enough you will have some sort of an encounter. The response you choose should be the one you are proficient with and effective. I practice with my 686+ 357 with 180 Partitions and have never discharged a bear spray under any circumstance. I know what I am comfortable with. I watch my backtrail constantly since I once had a black bear trail me for quite a distance walking out of back country in Adirondacks. This got real interesting once darkness fell and I could still hear it behind me. Back then it was a Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag and it was in hand even though carrying .270. Once I got back to truck buddy was just walking up too, I told him throw rifle onto back seat, we are driving down 2 track to put some distance before we gear down. Hunted there next day and never saw a bear so WTH?</p><p></p><p>Bear aware, bear safety protocols in camp, bear protocols on kill site, if you find a kill carcass, hunt somewhere else, carry whatever you feel most proficient with which is not the same as what makes you feel "safe". I would rather lose hunting privilege than my life. I will err on side of extreme protection for my life and use whatever I have to do so. </p><p></p><p>So this should be good for another 24 pages<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Muddyboots, post: 2300855, member: 63925"] Wow! 6 years old, 24 pages, still kicking thread! Bear awareness is still not employed nor deployed in most of the campsites I have been around in bear country. I am usually laughed at when I use standard bear protection protocols. Even for black bears. I just don't get it. Same folks are fastidious on scent control while hunting but disregard simple bear safety protocols around camp. This problem then carries over to the next poor unsuspecting hunter that camps in same area where bears have had run if the place. I hunt a spot in CO, where a site 100 yards from me was no doubt causing a potential dangerous situation. They were laughing at a bear that kept trying to enter their tent. Really? Why is this so difficult to use bear safety in campsites? Food cooked in tents, food scraps tossed nearby, food not hung up away from campsite, simple hygiene of toothpaste etc in tents. All are bear attractors. This same attitude carries into the woods. I don't see folks quartering and hanging quarters up 100 yds or more from actual kill site. Yeah, its a royal PITA but not likely to have any problems returning to the carcass then. Bear or other predators will gladly munch on a bloody carcass. I totally concur that comparing a hunter returning to retrieve from a kill site to a backpacker are two entirely different encounter scenarios. Bear demeanor is completely different and requires different response. Startled versus angry and territorial presents major oh crap. Even using full awareness, solid bear safety, if you are in woods long enough you will have some sort of an encounter. The response you choose should be the one you are proficient with and effective. I practice with my 686+ 357 with 180 Partitions and have never discharged a bear spray under any circumstance. I know what I am comfortable with. I watch my backtrail constantly since I once had a black bear trail me for quite a distance walking out of back country in Adirondacks. This got real interesting once darkness fell and I could still hear it behind me. Back then it was a Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag and it was in hand even though carrying .270. Once I got back to truck buddy was just walking up too, I told him throw rifle onto back seat, we are driving down 2 track to put some distance before we gear down. Hunted there next day and never saw a bear so WTH? Bear aware, bear safety protocols in camp, bear protocols on kill site, if you find a kill carcass, hunt somewhere else, carry whatever you feel most proficient with which is not the same as what makes you feel "safe". I would rather lose hunting privilege than my life. I will err on side of extreme protection for my life and use whatever I have to do so. So this should be good for another 24 pages😂 [/QUOTE]
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