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<blockquote data-quote="jmden" data-source="post: 1062507" data-attributes="member: 1742"><p>Yeah, there's really not much that we can determine for sure from the description we have and even the rangers reports may not be accurate...so may places along the path to where these charges were dropped where less than accurate information could've been given, unfortunately. Sure would like to be able to question that guy, but like phorwath said, once the lawyers get involved...</p><p></p><p>I've got warm loaded 40SW (180g XTP, pushed by 8.2g (I think) of Longshot, at 1200+ fps--about 600 ft. lbs.) and a warm loaded .357 with 185g Beartooth Bullets hard cast pushed by 16 g of H110 at 1350-1400fps plus for about 800 ft. lbs. I still feel like the .357 is not enough and that is the most potent .357 load I've ever run across. It's a well known load developed by the Beartooth Bullets and so far has worked just find in my SW. Am planning on stepping up to 300g XTP-MAG (MAG designation means it has a thicker than normal jacket to hold together in tough situations--sounds like a good bear bullet to me.) .50 projectiles doing nearly or at 1600fps soon...we'll see how that goes... Not too many griz in this state although they've been spotted less than an hours drive from where I'm typing this. But we just had a black bear killed, I think in 2013, that was over 600 lbs. in this state just a few miles from where some relatives live. That's alot of bear...and a .357 or .40SW is looking pretty puny to put a stop to 600 lbs. of ticked off or hunting bruin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmden, post: 1062507, member: 1742"] Yeah, there's really not much that we can determine for sure from the description we have and even the rangers reports may not be accurate...so may places along the path to where these charges were dropped where less than accurate information could've been given, unfortunately. Sure would like to be able to question that guy, but like phorwath said, once the lawyers get involved... I've got warm loaded 40SW (180g XTP, pushed by 8.2g (I think) of Longshot, at 1200+ fps--about 600 ft. lbs.) and a warm loaded .357 with 185g Beartooth Bullets hard cast pushed by 16 g of H110 at 1350-1400fps plus for about 800 ft. lbs. I still feel like the .357 is not enough and that is the most potent .357 load I've ever run across. It's a well known load developed by the Beartooth Bullets and so far has worked just find in my SW. Am planning on stepping up to 300g XTP-MAG (MAG designation means it has a thicker than normal jacket to hold together in tough situations--sounds like a good bear bullet to me.) .50 projectiles doing nearly or at 1600fps soon...we'll see how that goes... Not too many griz in this state although they've been spotted less than an hours drive from where I'm typing this. But we just had a black bear killed, I think in 2013, that was over 600 lbs. in this state just a few miles from where some relatives live. That's alot of bear...and a .357 or .40SW is looking pretty puny to put a stop to 600 lbs. of ticked off or hunting bruin. [/QUOTE]
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