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<blockquote data-quote="Lapua guy" data-source="post: 495195" data-attributes="member: 28489"><p>You cannot compare black bear hunting to brown bear hunting, not at all. Two very different animals and a drastic difference in size. I hunt black bears regularly with a 280 AI, and that is plenty of gun. I wouldn't take that out for griz or kodiaks though. It would kill, but it just isn't the best choice. I would want at least a 338 caliber. My favorite is the 358 Norma Mag for griz. That is what I use when I hunt them. Self-Defense is another story.</p><p> </p><p>With brown bears, the best place to hit them is in the shoulder. Break the animal down, eliminate its mobility, and it will go down. If you do have to take a quick shot in defense, a 12 gauge slug is a great choice. If you by chance do hit the bear in the skull, the slug will make more solid contact than a higher speed, smaller rifle projectile. This will usually knock a bear down.</p><p> </p><p>Your 460 would be plenty to crack the skull though, and would likely not glance off. </p><p> </p><p>Hunting, any high power rifle will work. It is for the defensive situations that you should plan for, and in those I want a 12 gauge with slugs and 000 buck interchanging, or a 45-70 repeater. If you have to use a handgun, make it 454 or larger. A 44 Mag is often underpowered against a big griz or kodiak. the 454 casull has more energy and velocity at 100 yards than an equally barrelled 44 Mag load. I carry a 454 Ruger Alaskan when I am in bear country as a back up to the rifle or when I am fishing and carrying a rifle isn't always handy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lapua guy, post: 495195, member: 28489"] You cannot compare black bear hunting to brown bear hunting, not at all. Two very different animals and a drastic difference in size. I hunt black bears regularly with a 280 AI, and that is plenty of gun. I wouldn't take that out for griz or kodiaks though. It would kill, but it just isn't the best choice. I would want at least a 338 caliber. My favorite is the 358 Norma Mag for griz. That is what I use when I hunt them. Self-Defense is another story. With brown bears, the best place to hit them is in the shoulder. Break the animal down, eliminate its mobility, and it will go down. If you do have to take a quick shot in defense, a 12 gauge slug is a great choice. If you by chance do hit the bear in the skull, the slug will make more solid contact than a higher speed, smaller rifle projectile. This will usually knock a bear down. Your 460 would be plenty to crack the skull though, and would likely not glance off. Hunting, any high power rifle will work. It is for the defensive situations that you should plan for, and in those I want a 12 gauge with slugs and 000 buck interchanging, or a 45-70 repeater. If you have to use a handgun, make it 454 or larger. A 44 Mag is often underpowered against a big griz or kodiak. the 454 casull has more energy and velocity at 100 yards than an equally barrelled 44 Mag load. I carry a 454 Ruger Alaskan when I am in bear country as a back up to the rifle or when I am fishing and carrying a rifle isn't always handy. [/QUOTE]
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