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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 393346" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>For the large adult boars - talking inland grizzlies or coastal brown bears - I'd like to have a 338 Win Mag, or that .338 caliber - or larger - in a case capacity that large or larger.</p><p></p><p>For a large black bear, I think much less would get the job done.</p><p></p><p>I've seen the equivalent of the 338 RUM and 338 Edge in action on large brown bear and with any good hit to the solarplexes, the results are fairly immediate. They overwhelm the bear's physiology and ability to bring on much of a fight. I've also seen the 7mm Rem Mags and from my observations, there was a big difference between these two calibers/cartridges. You might want to 'brain' the charging bear with the 7mm, because I'm not sure a chest shot would stop them in time.</p><p></p><p>If I were forced to confront these same bears on their food cache and knew I would elicite a fight-to-the death charge in their effort to either protect their food or, heaven forbid, their cubs, I'd take a 460 Weatherby if I had the option. But not with a Full Metal Jacket. Something like a Barnes TXS. The bigger and badder the better, provided I could still shoot it as effectively as a less powerful weapon.</p><p></p><p>A lot of guides in Alaska carry 338 and 375 caliber cartridges for stopping brown bears. Some go with the 458 Win Mag or equivalent. I've never heard too much in the way of the .460 Wthby Mags as guide guns. But with the right bullet and equivalent quality hits, I have no doubt but what they would be the more effective bear stopper.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 393346, member: 4191"] For the large adult boars - talking inland grizzlies or coastal brown bears - I'd like to have a 338 Win Mag, or that .338 caliber - or larger - in a case capacity that large or larger. For a large black bear, I think much less would get the job done. I've seen the equivalent of the 338 RUM and 338 Edge in action on large brown bear and with any good hit to the solarplexes, the results are fairly immediate. They overwhelm the bear's physiology and ability to bring on much of a fight. I've also seen the 7mm Rem Mags and from my observations, there was a big difference between these two calibers/cartridges. You might want to 'brain' the charging bear with the 7mm, because I'm not sure a chest shot would stop them in time. If I were forced to confront these same bears on their food cache and knew I would elicite a fight-to-the death charge in their effort to either protect their food or, heaven forbid, their cubs, I'd take a 460 Weatherby if I had the option. But not with a Full Metal Jacket. Something like a Barnes TXS. The bigger and badder the better, provided I could still shoot it as effectively as a less powerful weapon. A lot of guides in Alaska carry 338 and 375 caliber cartridges for stopping brown bears. Some go with the 458 Win Mag or equivalent. I've never heard too much in the way of the .460 Wthby Mags as guide guns. But with the right bullet and equivalent quality hits, I have no doubt but what they would be the more effective bear stopper. [/QUOTE]
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