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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 62959" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Auburn Tiger,</p><p></p><p>When selecting a custom barrel there are several things you need to think about before ordering. Most custom rifle builders have prefered barrel makers they use simply because they work the best for their needs, I am no different.</p><p></p><p>As stated, you need to decide what type of shooting or hunting you will be doing with this new rifle. If your hunting in a ground blind or treestand where things are a bit cramped, a 30" barrel may not be the best option. If you will be shooting long range from a stationary location then a 30" barrel would be a benefit.</p><p></p><p>Also, think about the type of shooting or hunting you will be doing. If you will be walking alot, do not get a #8 contour barrel that weights 8 lbs by itself. Again, if you will not be moving much, the heavier the better as long as your receiver will handle the weight.</p><p></p><p>Finally and perhaps the most important, consider the round you will be using. If your building a 260 Rem, any barrel will basically offer very long barrel life. Now using my 257 Allen Mag as an example, this round is a bit harder on throats as one might expect from a 130 gr bullet launched at 3650 fps.</p><p></p><p>There are ways to increase barrel/throat life. There is a reason I use Lilja 3 groove barrels. That is because they offer true BR accuracy and consistancy with a longer barrel and throat life then any other conventional riflign system I have tested, especially in these hot rounds. I also use only stainless barrels for my Allen Mags. If customers want the barrels dark, we can get them coated but stainless is the only way to go.</p><p></p><p>An expample is comparing a standard 6 groove barrel with a 3 groove. You will get roughly 35 to 40% longer barrel life with a 3 groove then a 6 groove with a round like the 257 STW or 257 Allen Mag. The Allen Mag will actually get a longer barrel life if stick powders are used in the STW because the AA8700 powder used in teh 257 Allen Mag is dramatcially cooler burning and much less abrasive then the stick powders.</p><p></p><p>So for rounds like this, you can really increase your barrel life by getting the right barrel to start with.</p><p></p><p>Trust in your rifle builder, you are paying him to build you a rifle of your dreams, it is our job and plkeasure as custom rifle builders to offer you the best product we possibly can for your needs.</p><p></p><p>The rifle builder will generally know what barrel is best for your needs and also they are generally in direct contact with the barrel makers and can use their vast knowledge as well.</p><p></p><p>So for your example, this is the barrel I would highly recommend:</p><p></p><p>Lilja Stainless Steel</p><p>.257" bore</p><p>1-7" twist for 156 gr ULD</p><p>1-10" twist for anything else</p><p>3 groove rifling</p><p></p><p></p><p>Barrel length and contour is more a personal preference, for my Allen Mags chambered in my Extreme Sporter rifles, I recommend at least a 28" barrel and prefer a full 30". For contour, I like a #6 contour for plenty of barrel stiffness for great accuracy and consistancy as well as not being overly heavy to carry in the field. For a 28" barrel I would go to a #5 as minimum.</p><p></p><p>Again, these contours are what I like for extreme accuracy potential, meaning Sub 1.5" groups at 500 yards. Lighter barrel contours can certainly be used as can heavier ones but sacrifices are made in consistancy and portability on either end.</p><p></p><p>Again, your paying your custom riflebuilder alot of hard earned money to build you what you want in a rifle, trust him to get your barrel as well. Generally they can also get the barrels at a slightly lower price then you could also because we buy so many barrels through the year.</p><p></p><p>Good Shooting!!</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 62959, member: 10"] Auburn Tiger, When selecting a custom barrel there are several things you need to think about before ordering. Most custom rifle builders have prefered barrel makers they use simply because they work the best for their needs, I am no different. As stated, you need to decide what type of shooting or hunting you will be doing with this new rifle. If your hunting in a ground blind or treestand where things are a bit cramped, a 30" barrel may not be the best option. If you will be shooting long range from a stationary location then a 30" barrel would be a benefit. Also, think about the type of shooting or hunting you will be doing. If you will be walking alot, do not get a #8 contour barrel that weights 8 lbs by itself. Again, if you will not be moving much, the heavier the better as long as your receiver will handle the weight. Finally and perhaps the most important, consider the round you will be using. If your building a 260 Rem, any barrel will basically offer very long barrel life. Now using my 257 Allen Mag as an example, this round is a bit harder on throats as one might expect from a 130 gr bullet launched at 3650 fps. There are ways to increase barrel/throat life. There is a reason I use Lilja 3 groove barrels. That is because they offer true BR accuracy and consistancy with a longer barrel and throat life then any other conventional riflign system I have tested, especially in these hot rounds. I also use only stainless barrels for my Allen Mags. If customers want the barrels dark, we can get them coated but stainless is the only way to go. An expample is comparing a standard 6 groove barrel with a 3 groove. You will get roughly 35 to 40% longer barrel life with a 3 groove then a 6 groove with a round like the 257 STW or 257 Allen Mag. The Allen Mag will actually get a longer barrel life if stick powders are used in the STW because the AA8700 powder used in teh 257 Allen Mag is dramatcially cooler burning and much less abrasive then the stick powders. So for rounds like this, you can really increase your barrel life by getting the right barrel to start with. Trust in your rifle builder, you are paying him to build you a rifle of your dreams, it is our job and plkeasure as custom rifle builders to offer you the best product we possibly can for your needs. The rifle builder will generally know what barrel is best for your needs and also they are generally in direct contact with the barrel makers and can use their vast knowledge as well. So for your example, this is the barrel I would highly recommend: Lilja Stainless Steel .257" bore 1-7" twist for 156 gr ULD 1-10" twist for anything else 3 groove rifling Barrel length and contour is more a personal preference, for my Allen Mags chambered in my Extreme Sporter rifles, I recommend at least a 28" barrel and prefer a full 30". For contour, I like a #6 contour for plenty of barrel stiffness for great accuracy and consistancy as well as not being overly heavy to carry in the field. For a 28" barrel I would go to a #5 as minimum. Again, these contours are what I like for extreme accuracy potential, meaning Sub 1.5" groups at 500 yards. Lighter barrel contours can certainly be used as can heavier ones but sacrifices are made in consistancy and portability on either end. Again, your paying your custom riflebuilder alot of hard earned money to build you what you want in a rifle, trust him to get your barrel as well. Generally they can also get the barrels at a slightly lower price then you could also because we buy so many barrels through the year. Good Shooting!! Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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