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<blockquote data-quote="QuietTexan" data-source="post: 2766192" data-attributes="member: 116181"><p>First off - there has been 0% overlap of goals mentioned here so far. Two champion match shooters talking over details versus a barrel maker saying he makes a good product without knowing who will cut the chamber. Who knows if they're talking about the same results at all.</p><p></p><p>What do YOU want to do? Are you shooting Palma and want to be competitive like Bryan Litz is? Are you shooting F-Open and want to win like Erik Cortina does? Are you popping baby whitetail at a feeder at 50 yards? You you trying to make 2-mile hits in ELR? Ding steel at a PRS match? Punch paper with service rifle? Kill an elk at 800 yards? </p><p></p><p>Define the required end goal, determine acceptable accuracy and precision requirements, and go from there. Who knows, a barrel right out of Bartlein's shop could be good enough. Or it might not be.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why do you assume it's a waste?</p><p></p><p>We put so much stock in <em>load development</em> and in <em>finding the load</em> when in reality if a rifle shoots it'll shoot about near anything pretty darn well. </p><p></p><p>I loaded up 400 223Rems with whatever the Hornady book said for their 80gn ELD-M, went out and it shot a .183" 5-shot group on the first day. Then I rolled it out to 1400 yards. While forming to an AI chamber at the same time. "Load development" consisted of 5 shots to ladder up to the charge and seating at mag length.</p><p></p><p>Was any of that shooting wasted? No, because real trigger clicks are never wasted. That 223 has plenty of room to get better, it's not like I was schwacking a 1/4MOA target at a mile with it (not that it ever could), but it shot more than good enough to walk out and make hits, let me practice in the wind, let me get more shots downrange. It shot better than me, in other words.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that Bryan is the same guy who put into his book that muzzle velocity stats and BC variance don't really come into play in the short- and mid- range at all. If you're shooting inside 1000 yards it's not nearly as important as it's made out to be. </p><p></p><p>Let the target tell you what's going on, and shoot more. Nothing replaces actually shooting, running 200 rounds on a barrel shouldn't cause any heartburn at all.</p><p></p><p>So shoot the rifle, find the end of the rainbow. Find a load on a new barrel, see how long it lasts. Find another one after 200 rounds if it falls apart. Be surprised if it shoots better than you can. Shoot smaller targets and targets further away until you miss, and then shoot at them until you can hit them.</p><p></p><p>Shoot more, gain your own experience, ignore the noise.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://precisionrifleblog.com/2022/08/14/sneak-peek-of-bryan-litzs-new-book-volume-iii-of-modern-advancements-in-long-range-shooting/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietTexan, post: 2766192, member: 116181"] First off - there has been 0% overlap of goals mentioned here so far. Two champion match shooters talking over details versus a barrel maker saying he makes a good product without knowing who will cut the chamber. Who knows if they're talking about the same results at all. What do YOU want to do? Are you shooting Palma and want to be competitive like Bryan Litz is? Are you shooting F-Open and want to win like Erik Cortina does? Are you popping baby whitetail at a feeder at 50 yards? You you trying to make 2-mile hits in ELR? Ding steel at a PRS match? Punch paper with service rifle? Kill an elk at 800 yards? Define the required end goal, determine acceptable accuracy and precision requirements, and go from there. Who knows, a barrel right out of Bartlein's shop could be good enough. Or it might not be. Why do you assume it's a waste? We put so much stock in [I]load development[/I] and in [I]finding the load[/I] when in reality if a rifle shoots it'll shoot about near anything pretty darn well. I loaded up 400 223Rems with whatever the Hornady book said for their 80gn ELD-M, went out and it shot a .183" 5-shot group on the first day. Then I rolled it out to 1400 yards. While forming to an AI chamber at the same time. "Load development" consisted of 5 shots to ladder up to the charge and seating at mag length. Was any of that shooting wasted? No, because real trigger clicks are never wasted. That 223 has plenty of room to get better, it's not like I was schwacking a 1/4MOA target at a mile with it (not that it ever could), but it shot more than good enough to walk out and make hits, let me practice in the wind, let me get more shots downrange. It shot better than me, in other words. Keep in mind that Bryan is the same guy who put into his book that muzzle velocity stats and BC variance don't really come into play in the short- and mid- range at all. If you're shooting inside 1000 yards it's not nearly as important as it's made out to be. Let the target tell you what's going on, and shoot more. Nothing replaces actually shooting, running 200 rounds on a barrel shouldn't cause any heartburn at all. So shoot the rifle, find the end of the rainbow. Find a load on a new barrel, see how long it lasts. Find another one after 200 rounds if it falls apart. Be surprised if it shoots better than you can. Shoot smaller targets and targets further away until you miss, and then shoot at them until you can hit them. Shoot more, gain your own experience, ignore the noise. [URL unfurl="true"]https://precisionrifleblog.com/2022/08/14/sneak-peek-of-bryan-litzs-new-book-volume-iii-of-modern-advancements-in-long-range-shooting/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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