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Barnes versus Berger
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<blockquote data-quote="Engineering101" data-source="post: 758244" data-attributes="member: 63138"><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">cowboy</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">More good info on the Bergers. I appreciate your taking the time to educate me.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">By the way, I've found that with bullets that pass clear through like Barnes that the big 338s and such won't mess up a smaller animal because they dump less energy in them than they would when shooting a bigger animal. To test this theory, I shot a whitetail with my 338 RUM. It stumbled for about 20 yards and fell over and had not the slightest bit of meat damage - just a small hole on both sides. I'm guessing a Berger would have made a hole like a coffee can and knocked it into next week.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So yes I'm guilty of the "bigger is better mentality" but not without a little thought – thus the use of Barnes bullets. Like you, I used to shoot deer with Sierra Game Kings. In my case, I used 100 grainers out of a 6mm Rem. That bullet pretty much stopped on the opposite side. And as with the 338/Barnes combo, the deer might go 20 yards but that was about it. The 6mm seemed like a pretty good way to go until one day my nephew let me shoot his 300 RUM and I was hooked.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The Barnes/338 combo works on elk the same way, 20 yards and flop but of course more energy gets dumped into the elk since they are thicker through. Kind of nice that bigger animals get hit harder but that only works with bullets that pass through with horsepower to spare. You get out there at 1,000 yards and you have no horsepower to spare so I have been thinking a different strategy might be in order – like say some Bergers. Also a friend gave me 3 boxes of them because he couldn't get them to shoot. I'm thinking that I can get them to shoot, but I first wanted to know if it was worth it. Thanks to all for the very useful info.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Engineering101, post: 758244, member: 63138"] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]cowboy[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]More good info on the Bergers. I appreciate your taking the time to educate me.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]By the way, I’ve found that with bullets that pass clear through like Barnes that the big 338s and such won’t mess up a smaller animal because they dump less energy in them than they would when shooting a bigger animal. To test this theory, I shot a whitetail with my 338 RUM. It stumbled for about 20 yards and fell over and had not the slightest bit of meat damage - just a small hole on both sides. I’m guessing a Berger would have made a hole like a coffee can and knocked it into next week.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]So yes I’m guilty of the “bigger is better mentality” but not without a little thought – thus the use of Barnes bullets. Like you, I used to shoot deer with Sierra Game Kings. In my case, I used 100 grainers out of a 6mm Rem. That bullet pretty much stopped on the opposite side. And as with the 338/Barnes combo, the deer might go 20 yards but that was about it. The 6mm seemed like a pretty good way to go until one day my nephew let me shoot his 300 RUM and I was hooked.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3]The Barnes/338 combo works on elk the same way, 20 yards and flop but of course more energy gets dumped into the elk since they are thicker through. Kind of nice that bigger animals get hit harder but that only works with bullets that pass through with horsepower to spare. You get out there at 1,000 yards and you have no horsepower to spare so I have been thinking a different strategy might be in order – like say some Bergers. Also a friend gave me 3 boxes of them because he couldn’t get them to shoot. I’m thinking that I can get them to shoot, but I first wanted to know if it was worth it. Thanks to all for the very useful info.:)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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