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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 604331" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Whether I use clicks or ballistic reticles depends on the situation. But I have that option with the faster bullet. Most every year I take animals out to 600+ yards I wouldn't have if I had to turn clicks. Seconds count in the field hunting and not so much target shooting long range. Those shots are very easy with the right reticle and just gives me another option. At long range when the drops get to be 35+ inches every 100 yards turn clicks and be accurate. I do not hurry shots and wound animals however ballistic reticles with fast bullets out to certain ranges give me another option. Like I always say I want the best opportunity to have success on the hunting trip when I see the animal no matter what the situation. So I try to come up with equipment that provides me with that best opportunity. Most of my hunting is within 1000 yards with backpack gear so I gear up for my best chance within those parameters. </p><p> </p><p>Your set up is good for what you do which is sit back with a top rangefinder and accurate rifle and take the time to make extreme long range shots. Just saying all I did so you understand why I do what I do. I have some extreme long range cannons for shooting the way you do but I only hunt with them when I have a vehicle to haul them around and have a means to get the range.</p><p> </p><p>I just ran some numbers for your rifle on JBM with the 300 Berger hybrid against the 260 Cutting edge. I gave the 260 grain 3000 fps and yours the 2740 fps I think you listed. I have no idea if the numbers are accurate on either bullet since I have not shot them. But assuming they are the 260 will outshoot the 300 in the wind by several inches and 112" drop to 1500 yards at my 5000 feet elevation. Like you I would like to test them side by side. I don't own stock in either I just want to know. </p><p> </p><p>The fouling is not an issue with the copper bullets since they figured out the cute little grooves that collect the residue instead of squashing it into the barrel. Either of these 338 caliber slugs will kill anything placed through the chest of an animal. Both have sufficient energy at any range a person could hit something.</p><p> </p><p>One of the critical things you have got to look at is what distance your bullet is actually in the kill zone at a particuler range. The faster the bullet the longer you are in the kill zone. Arbitrarily say you shoot a 12" group at 1500 yards and the bullet drops 12" every 8 yards. Say the 260 gives you 12 yards through the kill. Now you have increased your odds of a kill by 33%. Again these figures are arbitrary and I have not run them just an example. You had better be dead on with your range and have a bullet that gives you the longest flight through the kill zone as it drops through it. Again I shoot what I do to give me the best chance at hitting and killing my target.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 604331, member: 505"] Whether I use clicks or ballistic reticles depends on the situation. But I have that option with the faster bullet. Most every year I take animals out to 600+ yards I wouldn't have if I had to turn clicks. Seconds count in the field hunting and not so much target shooting long range. Those shots are very easy with the right reticle and just gives me another option. At long range when the drops get to be 35+ inches every 100 yards turn clicks and be accurate. I do not hurry shots and wound animals however ballistic reticles with fast bullets out to certain ranges give me another option. Like I always say I want the best opportunity to have success on the hunting trip when I see the animal no matter what the situation. So I try to come up with equipment that provides me with that best opportunity. Most of my hunting is within 1000 yards with backpack gear so I gear up for my best chance within those parameters. Your set up is good for what you do which is sit back with a top rangefinder and accurate rifle and take the time to make extreme long range shots. Just saying all I did so you understand why I do what I do. I have some extreme long range cannons for shooting the way you do but I only hunt with them when I have a vehicle to haul them around and have a means to get the range. I just ran some numbers for your rifle on JBM with the 300 Berger hybrid against the 260 Cutting edge. I gave the 260 grain 3000 fps and yours the 2740 fps I think you listed. I have no idea if the numbers are accurate on either bullet since I have not shot them. But assuming they are the 260 will outshoot the 300 in the wind by several inches and 112" drop to 1500 yards at my 5000 feet elevation. Like you I would like to test them side by side. I don't own stock in either I just want to know. The fouling is not an issue with the copper bullets since they figured out the cute little grooves that collect the residue instead of squashing it into the barrel. Either of these 338 caliber slugs will kill anything placed through the chest of an animal. Both have sufficient energy at any range a person could hit something. One of the critical things you have got to look at is what distance your bullet is actually in the kill zone at a particuler range. The faster the bullet the longer you are in the kill zone. Arbitrarily say you shoot a 12" group at 1500 yards and the bullet drops 12" every 8 yards. Say the 260 gives you 12 yards through the kill. Now you have increased your odds of a kill by 33%. Again these figures are arbitrary and I have not run them just an example. You had better be dead on with your range and have a bullet that gives you the longest flight through the kill zone as it drops through it. Again I shoot what I do to give me the best chance at hitting and killing my target. [/QUOTE]
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