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<blockquote data-quote="jmden" data-source="post: 182713" data-attributes="member: 1742"><p>That's great that you found a good pack for you, bitbull.</p><p> </p><p>I don't own and haven't used an Eberlestock, but I have questions'about the way their rifle scabbard is mounted. For instance, how does the setup go through the trees and brush cross country sticking out the bottom and top like that? My rifle in the Kifaru Gun Bearer is right at my hand and as it crosses my chest, I can see it and guide it a bit, and since the system is adjustable enough so that the barrel does not go extend above my head when walking, it rarely gets caught on anything. It also seems to me that the movement required to get a rifle out the Eberlestock pack would scare away that small herd of elk around the bend in the trail before you could get off a shot. The Kifaru seems like it would require much less body and rifle movement to get it on target quickly. The Kifaru already has the rifle in an across the chest configuration and with one small and quiet pull on a piece of webbing, the rifle is ready to put to the shoulder. You'll seem 'em demonstrating shooting claybirds with a shotgun from fully secured Gun Bearers in a video. </p><p> </p><p>I'm sure Eberlestocks are great for you, they just appear heavy, bulky, and too 'gadgety' with all their adjustments and add-ins to me. JMO. But, everywhere I go with my Kifaru, I've got anywhere from 1000 cubic inches to 9000+ cubic inches at my disposal without 'adding' anything and the whole setup probably weighs at least a couple of pounds less than the 'stock' J104. Adding additional parts to the Eberlestocks would add more weight to it. Kifaru's come from a long line of technical mountaineeing equipment married to hunting where the theme is lightweight and strong. Eberlestocks seem like they look as though they came from the military where most things are heavy and strong. </p><p> </p><p>Only reason I made the pack bag above was that I was too cheap to buy one of Kifaru's many sized LongHunter packs. I bought the Long Hunter Hauler (see the platform--does Eberlestock do that?--throw it down, put a quarter on it and go--it's very secure and works very well--or I could put the quarters in the packbag if I preferred that for some reason) and the Kifaru Duffel which doesn't connect at all to the pack like the LongHunter packbags do. The LongHunter Packbags are vastly superior. I was just too cheap. So I made something that will work much better than the duffel without costing another $250+. </p><p> </p><p>Do you live close to Missoula? I spend quite a bit of time there visiting my wife's relatives. And, every fall I wished I lived there as her relatives have an elk and bird hunting 'establishment' bar none...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmden, post: 182713, member: 1742"] That's great that you found a good pack for you, bitbull. I don't own and haven't used an Eberlestock, but I have questions'about the way their rifle scabbard is mounted. For instance, how does the setup go through the trees and brush cross country sticking out the bottom and top like that? My rifle in the Kifaru Gun Bearer is right at my hand and as it crosses my chest, I can see it and guide it a bit, and since the system is adjustable enough so that the barrel does not go extend above my head when walking, it rarely gets caught on anything. It also seems to me that the movement required to get a rifle out the Eberlestock pack would scare away that small herd of elk around the bend in the trail before you could get off a shot. The Kifaru seems like it would require much less body and rifle movement to get it on target quickly. The Kifaru already has the rifle in an across the chest configuration and with one small and quiet pull on a piece of webbing, the rifle is ready to put to the shoulder. You'll seem 'em demonstrating shooting claybirds with a shotgun from fully secured Gun Bearers in a video. I'm sure Eberlestocks are great for you, they just appear heavy, bulky, and too 'gadgety' with all their adjustments and add-ins to me. JMO. But, everywhere I go with my Kifaru, I've got anywhere from 1000 cubic inches to 9000+ cubic inches at my disposal without 'adding' anything and the whole setup probably weighs at least a couple of pounds less than the 'stock' J104. Adding additional parts to the Eberlestocks would add more weight to it. Kifaru's come from a long line of technical mountaineeing equipment married to hunting where the theme is lightweight and strong. Eberlestocks seem like they look as though they came from the military where most things are heavy and strong. Only reason I made the pack bag above was that I was too cheap to buy one of Kifaru's many sized LongHunter packs. I bought the Long Hunter Hauler (see the platform--does Eberlestock do that?--throw it down, put a quarter on it and go--it's very secure and works very well--or I could put the quarters in the packbag if I preferred that for some reason) and the Kifaru Duffel which doesn't connect at all to the pack like the LongHunter packbags do. The LongHunter Packbags are vastly superior. I was just too cheap. So I made something that will work much better than the duffel without costing another $250+. Do you live close to Missoula? I spend quite a bit of time there visiting my wife's relatives. And, every fall I wished I lived there as her relatives have an elk and bird hunting 'establishment' bar none...:rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
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