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Baby Muscle brake test/ Great American 338
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<blockquote data-quote="hammertyme" data-source="post: 368740" data-attributes="member: 12863"><p>Sometimes we get caught up in an idea whether it be from loyalty (good) or we take something way to far and we find ourselves in a position without support and we start grasping at straws. This thread was highjacked from the original intent of me just sharing the joy of painlessly being able to shoot these very large calibers without getting headaches from the back blast. I do what I do for my own needs and seldom get to share the mind set of what goes into my projects. But at this point I say okay. The brake concept came about when Barrett first did their brake concept. Two guys (one my friend) said hey lets make a bullpup version with an 18" barrel. Since it was done under a company perspectous they worked in the shop and also in my friends personal shop at night. One gun was made and apparently was marketed. Several proto-type brakes were made. They ended up going with the Barrett and never made another brake!! Below is a picture of the Barrett on my 460 X 510 handgun.</p><p> </p><p>I called friends who make brakes all over the country for their opinion of what brake I should put on ELE. Several including Ron Bartlett at Vias said Barrett without a doubt was the best recoil reducing system on the market. AFter shooting ELE a bunch I new that I had to go another route or sell the gun.</p><p> </p><p>Now look at the Barrett Arrowhead brake in the picture. Think in terms of semetry. When you apply the arrowhead into a cad program and with my instructions to my friend the cad programmer and reduce the Barrett you get an exact representation of what Kirby's brake looks like! That can't be I said because the back rake of the ports wasn't need at 35 or so degrees. Did not like the square back and the absolute inability to radius the brake into the barrel diameter.</p><p>It is pretty obvious to those that want to see the differences what those difference are! As Jim said, nothing the same about the two be it inside or out. Including the NO top port system AND the top port system! Not even the top porting system looks like either Darryl Holland or Kirby's.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk460/emeraldislandlover/HPIM1374.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p> </p><p>Now lets look at the top porting which even with the third generation looks nothing like Kirby's or Daryl's.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk460/emeraldislandlover/Brakecomparisons.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p> </p><p>It has been fun and have really enjoyed sharing with you pitbull. For the most part Jim and a very few others have heard this story. I will say that my 90 degree first port concept wasn't mine. But as it set dormant on someone's shelf for 20 years, I am laying claim to it now because it took my headaches away and stopped me eating powder exhaust.</p><p> </p><p>Have a nice day.</p><p> </p><p>Neal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hammertyme, post: 368740, member: 12863"] Sometimes we get caught up in an idea whether it be from loyalty (good) or we take something way to far and we find ourselves in a position without support and we start grasping at straws. This thread was highjacked from the original intent of me just sharing the joy of painlessly being able to shoot these very large calibers without getting headaches from the back blast. I do what I do for my own needs and seldom get to share the mind set of what goes into my projects. But at this point I say okay. The brake concept came about when Barrett first did their brake concept. Two guys (one my friend) said hey lets make a bullpup version with an 18" barrel. Since it was done under a company perspectous they worked in the shop and also in my friends personal shop at night. One gun was made and apparently was marketed. Several proto-type brakes were made. They ended up going with the Barrett and never made another brake!! Below is a picture of the Barrett on my 460 X 510 handgun. I called friends who make brakes all over the country for their opinion of what brake I should put on ELE. Several including Ron Bartlett at Vias said Barrett without a doubt was the best recoil reducing system on the market. AFter shooting ELE a bunch I new that I had to go another route or sell the gun. Now look at the Barrett Arrowhead brake in the picture. Think in terms of semetry. When you apply the arrowhead into a cad program and with my instructions to my friend the cad programmer and reduce the Barrett you get an exact representation of what Kirby's brake looks like! That can't be I said because the back rake of the ports wasn't need at 35 or so degrees. Did not like the square back and the absolute inability to radius the brake into the barrel diameter. It is pretty obvious to those that want to see the differences what those difference are! As Jim said, nothing the same about the two be it inside or out. Including the NO top port system AND the top port system! Not even the top porting system looks like either Darryl Holland or Kirby's. [IMG]http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk460/emeraldislandlover/HPIM1374.jpg[/IMG] Now lets look at the top porting which even with the third generation looks nothing like Kirby's or Daryl's. [IMG]http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk460/emeraldislandlover/Brakecomparisons.jpg[/IMG] It has been fun and have really enjoyed sharing with you pitbull. For the most part Jim and a very few others have heard this story. I will say that my 90 degree first port concept wasn't mine. But as it set dormant on someone's shelf for 20 years, I am laying claim to it now because it took my headaches away and stopped me eating powder exhaust. Have a nice day. Neal [/QUOTE]
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