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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 65128" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Adinok,</p><p></p><p>Will drop tests allow an accurate drop chart model to be formed?</p><p></p><p>Is it not far more important to know your true bullet trajectory then the exact B.C. of the bullet itself. All I do is use this drop method to find a starting point. That being a point where the bullets trajectory will be close over the range I plan on shooting the load. Then I take this prediction and put it into hard data but shooting at a variaty of ranged, tweaking the chart and shooting some more.</p><p></p><p>I am not a match shooter, no desire to be. But I am a big game hunter and an extreme range varminter and experimenter. I care very little what B.C. is labled on a bullet as long as it is predictable and accurate.</p><p></p><p>I have just found the Wildcats to produce less drop and less wind drift then mainly the Sierra Matchkings, at least in the 338 rounds.</p><p></p><p>To plot the trajectories these bullets are ACTUALLY producing, the ballistic programs must be loaded with a specific B.C.</p><p></p><p>This may not be the exact B.C., I can not tell you, all I can tell you is that they need these numbers for the ballistic programs to match up to the trajectories.</p><p></p><p>I think this whole thing as gotten a bit out of hand and I may have been part of that. If you or your friends have no ill will toward Richard then I apologize but I will certainly never apologize for standing up for a hell of a product made by a good man.</p><p></p><p>Again, if this has been a misunderstanding then no hard feelings and if I have offended someone that I should not have, I am sorry.</p><p></p><p>If your curious about the Wildcat Bullets, Just get some and try them. They are extreme performing bullets, in accuracy, ballistic performance and terminal performance.</p><p></p><p>Performing so well in all three areas is what really sets these bullets apart from the rest of the extreme range bullets.</p><p></p><p>With most you either get great accuracy with good ballistic performance but terminal performance is marginal.</p><p></p><p>Others will give you great terminal performance but generally will lack in extreme ballistic performance and often accuracy compared to a true match quality bullet.</p><p></p><p>The Wildcats give you all three which is a very new thing in our sport. </p><p></p><p>By all means, test these bullets, report the results because more guys need to be using these bullets, especially for extreme range big game hunting, there is really no competition for this use at extreme range.</p><p></p><p>I thought that was what we were here to talk about.</p><p></p><p>Finally, again, if I have offended some with no reason I am sorry, but Richard Graves is fully 50% of the reason my Allen Mags offer the extreme performance they do. I have tested these bullets, I have tried to destroy them with rotational stesses and shot them at ranges from 100 yards to 2000 yards and have yet to be totally satisfied with the Wildcats I have used. </p><p></p><p>Not every rifle will love these bullets, that is the nature of our sport but on average they are top notch in every feature and when you add all the features of the Wildcat Bullets up and compare them to any of the other match bullets, at least for use on big game at extreme range or even shooting for groups at extreme range, these bullets will run with any bullets every designed.</p><p></p><p>I use Wildcat Bullets, I build my rifles around Wildcat bullets. Everytime I take my rifles to the range and shoot the Wildcat Bullets I realize time and again these are something special.</p><p></p><p>One can hardly hold a 156 gr .257" ULD RBBT or a 350 gr .338" ULD RBBT bullet in your hand and not realize these are truely unique bullets.</p><p></p><p>This dog needs to be put to rest.</p><p></p><p>Test the bullets and report your findings, I will be excited to read your results and I will continue to post my test results as well.</p><p></p><p>We will be testing the Allen Magnums and the Wildcat Bullets for the first time in field tests here in early April. We will be hunting Exotic rams and will hopefully report back on how these rounds and bullets performed on game.</p><p></p><p>Good Shooting!!</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 65128, member: 10"] Adinok, Will drop tests allow an accurate drop chart model to be formed? Is it not far more important to know your true bullet trajectory then the exact B.C. of the bullet itself. All I do is use this drop method to find a starting point. That being a point where the bullets trajectory will be close over the range I plan on shooting the load. Then I take this prediction and put it into hard data but shooting at a variaty of ranged, tweaking the chart and shooting some more. I am not a match shooter, no desire to be. But I am a big game hunter and an extreme range varminter and experimenter. I care very little what B.C. is labled on a bullet as long as it is predictable and accurate. I have just found the Wildcats to produce less drop and less wind drift then mainly the Sierra Matchkings, at least in the 338 rounds. To plot the trajectories these bullets are ACTUALLY producing, the ballistic programs must be loaded with a specific B.C. This may not be the exact B.C., I can not tell you, all I can tell you is that they need these numbers for the ballistic programs to match up to the trajectories. I think this whole thing as gotten a bit out of hand and I may have been part of that. If you or your friends have no ill will toward Richard then I apologize but I will certainly never apologize for standing up for a hell of a product made by a good man. Again, if this has been a misunderstanding then no hard feelings and if I have offended someone that I should not have, I am sorry. If your curious about the Wildcat Bullets, Just get some and try them. They are extreme performing bullets, in accuracy, ballistic performance and terminal performance. Performing so well in all three areas is what really sets these bullets apart from the rest of the extreme range bullets. With most you either get great accuracy with good ballistic performance but terminal performance is marginal. Others will give you great terminal performance but generally will lack in extreme ballistic performance and often accuracy compared to a true match quality bullet. The Wildcats give you all three which is a very new thing in our sport. By all means, test these bullets, report the results because more guys need to be using these bullets, especially for extreme range big game hunting, there is really no competition for this use at extreme range. I thought that was what we were here to talk about. Finally, again, if I have offended some with no reason I am sorry, but Richard Graves is fully 50% of the reason my Allen Mags offer the extreme performance they do. I have tested these bullets, I have tried to destroy them with rotational stesses and shot them at ranges from 100 yards to 2000 yards and have yet to be totally satisfied with the Wildcats I have used. Not every rifle will love these bullets, that is the nature of our sport but on average they are top notch in every feature and when you add all the features of the Wildcat Bullets up and compare them to any of the other match bullets, at least for use on big game at extreme range or even shooting for groups at extreme range, these bullets will run with any bullets every designed. I use Wildcat Bullets, I build my rifles around Wildcat bullets. Everytime I take my rifles to the range and shoot the Wildcat Bullets I realize time and again these are something special. One can hardly hold a 156 gr .257" ULD RBBT or a 350 gr .338" ULD RBBT bullet in your hand and not realize these are truely unique bullets. This dog needs to be put to rest. Test the bullets and report your findings, I will be excited to read your results and I will continue to post my test results as well. We will be testing the Allen Magnums and the Wildcat Bullets for the first time in field tests here in early April. We will be hunting Exotic rams and will hopefully report back on how these rounds and bullets performed on game. Good Shooting!! Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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