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<blockquote data-quote="TexSavage" data-source="post: 2443424" data-attributes="member: 6245"><p>Silencer Shop's local dealer contacted me to have me certify. To certify, the local dealer's rep initiated a remote session. He told me when to enter and what info I needed to enter which was my user ID and PIN. He never once asked me what they were nor did I tell him what they were. He had explained the steps before hand as well. He did tell me they had to enter their required information and while doing so my screen was greyed/blurred out. Once they had done theirs, I was presented a screen from the ATF and I put in my account ID and I put in my PIN and then I hit submit. I do remember the PIN was covered with asterisks and I think my user ID was also. None of the characters were ever shown at any point like some password entries do at times. I promptly received two emails from the ATF, one was a duplicate, surprised it was not in triplicate. </p><p></p><p>It was my understanding before hand, that if I had not done this using a trust, and instead did it as personal, I would have had to go down in person to the local shop to certify my form in front of the dealers authorized representative. </p><p></p><p>Being in the software industry and in particular having to deal with Payment Card Industry (PCI) rules and regs as well as the mobility industry and Confidential Personal Network Information (CPNI) rules and regs, I am confident in saying it appeared to me that the rep could not see what I entered in any fashion. This is all going to be quite the ride.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TexSavage, post: 2443424, member: 6245"] Silencer Shop's local dealer contacted me to have me certify. To certify, the local dealer's rep initiated a remote session. He told me when to enter and what info I needed to enter which was my user ID and PIN. He never once asked me what they were nor did I tell him what they were. He had explained the steps before hand as well. He did tell me they had to enter their required information and while doing so my screen was greyed/blurred out. Once they had done theirs, I was presented a screen from the ATF and I put in my account ID and I put in my PIN and then I hit submit. I do remember the PIN was covered with asterisks and I think my user ID was also. None of the characters were ever shown at any point like some password entries do at times. I promptly received two emails from the ATF, one was a duplicate, surprised it was not in triplicate. It was my understanding before hand, that if I had not done this using a trust, and instead did it as personal, I would have had to go down in person to the local shop to certify my form in front of the dealers authorized representative. Being in the software industry and in particular having to deal with Payment Card Industry (PCI) rules and regs as well as the mobility industry and Confidential Personal Network Information (CPNI) rules and regs, I am confident in saying it appeared to me that the rep could not see what I entered in any fashion. This is all going to be quite the ride. [/QUOTE]
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