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<blockquote data-quote="MudRunner2005" data-source="post: 1416532" data-attributes="member: 12995"><p>You can get mad all you want, but the fact is, he's correct. There are 2 factions in the NRA... Those who are progressive gun owners that actually want to FIGHT for our rights, and then there's the complacent "Fudds" who only give a crap about wing-shooting and shotguns and don't care about AR's, so they don't care if they ban them and are willing to compromise with the left. These are the same 2 factions that exist in the current gun community as a whole, right now. If you don't believe me, do some research on Marion Hammer's comments about her fellow colleagues that want to repeal the Hughes Amendment, pass the HPA, and remove SBR's off the registry... She called them "The enemy within". That should tell you all you need to know about how alot of the board of directors feels about AR's, bump stocks, etc...</p><p></p><p>The fact is, the NRA gave the nod to start this whole **** mess when they opened their mouths after Vegas.</p><p></p><p>You have to face facts brother... It aint the same Association it used to be. They used to be a hard-nosed bunch of fighters that would NEVER give in. But now they're infiltrated with half-assed wannabe politicians that love compromising with the enemy, and then claim they're still fighting for our rights...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Until they actually decide to grow a pair of balls, and actually FIGHT for our 2A rights, and don't give one **** inch to the anti's, then I don't have much faith in them.</p><p></p><p>Also, bumpstocks don't make a S/A an F/A rifle...In ANY way, shape, or form. They <strong><em><u>SIMULATE</u></em></strong> F/A fire. There's a HUGE difference. That's like saying your Pontiac Fiero with a cheap fiberglass Lambo body kit on it, is actually a Lambo... In no universe is it a real Lamborghini. Just like in no universe does a bumpstock turn a semi-auto rifle into a full-auto rifle. And I agree with you on this one, that if you want a full-auto, drop the change on one, and get you a REAL transferrable. I'd love to have a few in my collection, but don't have the money. That being said, I have no use for, or desire to own a bumpstock. They're cheap pieces of plastic. But this whole thing is more about principle and precedent, than it is about the cheap plastic device itself.</p><p></p><p>Also, I can just about guarantee you that Tim @ MAC is <strong>NOT</strong> taking globalist money. That dude is legit. He owns legal transferrable machineguns, suppressors, even bumpstocks, and TONS of military rifles... He's not a shill. I also share his desire to roll things back to 1933... Before the NFA started the whole infringement ball rolling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MudRunner2005, post: 1416532, member: 12995"] You can get mad all you want, but the fact is, he's correct. There are 2 factions in the NRA... Those who are progressive gun owners that actually want to FIGHT for our rights, and then there's the complacent "Fudds" who only give a crap about wing-shooting and shotguns and don't care about AR's, so they don't care if they ban them and are willing to compromise with the left. These are the same 2 factions that exist in the current gun community as a whole, right now. If you don't believe me, do some research on Marion Hammer's comments about her fellow colleagues that want to repeal the Hughes Amendment, pass the HPA, and remove SBR's off the registry... She called them "The enemy within". That should tell you all you need to know about how alot of the board of directors feels about AR's, bump stocks, etc... The fact is, the NRA gave the nod to start this whole **** mess when they opened their mouths after Vegas. You have to face facts brother... It aint the same Association it used to be. They used to be a hard-nosed bunch of fighters that would NEVER give in. But now they're infiltrated with half-assed wannabe politicians that love compromising with the enemy, and then claim they're still fighting for our rights...:rolleyes: Until they actually decide to grow a pair of balls, and actually FIGHT for our 2A rights, and don't give one **** inch to the anti's, then I don't have much faith in them. Also, bumpstocks don't make a S/A an F/A rifle...In ANY way, shape, or form. They [B][I][U]SIMULATE[/U][/I][/B] F/A fire. There's a HUGE difference. That's like saying your Pontiac Fiero with a cheap fiberglass Lambo body kit on it, is actually a Lambo... In no universe is it a real Lamborghini. Just like in no universe does a bumpstock turn a semi-auto rifle into a full-auto rifle. And I agree with you on this one, that if you want a full-auto, drop the change on one, and get you a REAL transferrable. I'd love to have a few in my collection, but don't have the money. That being said, I have no use for, or desire to own a bumpstock. They're cheap pieces of plastic. But this whole thing is more about principle and precedent, than it is about the cheap plastic device itself. Also, I can just about guarantee you that Tim @ MAC is [B]NOT[/B] taking globalist money. That dude is legit. He owns legal transferrable machineguns, suppressors, even bumpstocks, and TONS of military rifles... He's not a shill. I also share his desire to roll things back to 1933... Before the NFA started the whole infringement ball rolling. [/QUOTE]
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