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<blockquote data-quote="crkckr" data-source="post: 1642615" data-attributes="member: 78056"><p>The 30-06 and .308 AP I've played with over the years are definitely tungsten (ammo from back as far as the 50's). Also while out in Mojave near Edwards AFB, we found a few cores from .50 BMG rounds, which are also tungsten. You can tell by touching them to a grinder wheel, instead of the normal steel yellow/red sparks you get white 'sparklers' coming off the wheel. The 30 cal stuff has a 6mm core while the 50 cal has a 30 cal. core. Shooting AP is actually dangerous since it really is *hard* to stop! Wood probably works best, a good, thick (24"+) wet oak stump will *sometimes* capture an AP round. API and tracer is even worse since there's the danger of setting things on fire so extreme care must be taken. I speak from experience here, we almost set the whole desert on fire just outside of Tucson! A buddy fired a tracer out of an FAL at an old Vega sitting around rusting to death out in the weeds. The bullet lit, ricocheted around inside the car then popped out the roof, landing about 75 yds beyond the car. I went to check & saw small flames, called the others and by the time the 6 of us got there the flames were head high! Fortunately I had and old tarp in the back of my truck that we used to beat the flames down. Scared the beejeesus out all of us and we never used tracers again!</p><p></p><p>The new 'cold' tracers (strictly civilian) don't have that problem and are fire safe to shoot.</p><p></p><p>While out shooting in the CA desert (in another life time, it seems) a buddy shot a short piece of railroad track with an AP round out of his BM-59, which zipped right through the center section, making a tiny 6mm hole. Just for grins I shot it with a one of my .308 hunting rounds, a 165gr. Nosler Partition - which also went thru but which made a substantially larger hole! The AP round carried on long after but the Nosler was done, still, I was surprised it went thru (the section was fairly short & had be cut off with a gas torch so it may have been somewhat annealed).</p><p></p><p>Shooting hard stuff like that is dangerous and you can't give yourself too much distance & wiggle room, as shown in several close call U tube vids. That my crazy buddies and I survived all the stupid stuff we did back in the old days is more a testament to dumb luck than anything else! </p><p>Cheers,</p><p>crkckr</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crkckr, post: 1642615, member: 78056"] The 30-06 and .308 AP I've played with over the years are definitely tungsten (ammo from back as far as the 50's). Also while out in Mojave near Edwards AFB, we found a few cores from .50 BMG rounds, which are also tungsten. You can tell by touching them to a grinder wheel, instead of the normal steel yellow/red sparks you get white 'sparklers' coming off the wheel. The 30 cal stuff has a 6mm core while the 50 cal has a 30 cal. core. Shooting AP is actually dangerous since it really is *hard* to stop! Wood probably works best, a good, thick (24"+) wet oak stump will *sometimes* capture an AP round. API and tracer is even worse since there's the danger of setting things on fire so extreme care must be taken. I speak from experience here, we almost set the whole desert on fire just outside of Tucson! A buddy fired a tracer out of an FAL at an old Vega sitting around rusting to death out in the weeds. The bullet lit, ricocheted around inside the car then popped out the roof, landing about 75 yds beyond the car. I went to check & saw small flames, called the others and by the time the 6 of us got there the flames were head high! Fortunately I had and old tarp in the back of my truck that we used to beat the flames down. Scared the beejeesus out all of us and we never used tracers again! The new 'cold' tracers (strictly civilian) don't have that problem and are fire safe to shoot. While out shooting in the CA desert (in another life time, it seems) a buddy shot a short piece of railroad track with an AP round out of his BM-59, which zipped right through the center section, making a tiny 6mm hole. Just for grins I shot it with a one of my .308 hunting rounds, a 165gr. Nosler Partition - which also went thru but which made a substantially larger hole! The AP round carried on long after but the Nosler was done, still, I was surprised it went thru (the section was fairly short & had be cut off with a gas torch so it may have been somewhat annealed). Shooting hard stuff like that is dangerous and you can't give yourself too much distance & wiggle room, as shown in several close call U tube vids. That my crazy buddies and I survived all the stupid stuff we did back in the old days is more a testament to dumb luck than anything else! Cheers, crkckr [/QUOTE]
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