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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 845043" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>I really don't think you can understand what I'm getting at, I just wish you'd take someones word for it who lives right in the middle of this country and deals with these issues every day instead of propaganda!</p><p></p><p>I helped the Idaho FWP cull on a herd of elk one summer and it was a last resort, we had placed air canons around the field, these give of a gunshot at random intervals. We'd come in at night and pushed them, one night we got in close down wind and lit them up with spot light and buzz bombs which are whistling M80s shot from a 12 gauge, there was elk running every where and I though we had them of for a while but in a couple days they were back. Finally it came to just shooting some, the unfortunate part is we were not allowed to utilize them, sometimes you can keep them or they go to the food bank but some want them left and I understand the reasoning. </p><p>Making a decoy field is just a poor idea, for one you would have to take out more ground and farm it then you'd have to water it and raise a more tasty crop that would hold the elk so you'd more than double your cost, which of the top of my head would have been about $200/acre and you would have to somehow figured out a way to get water rights. And the number one reason is the elk herd should be maintained at a level the natural feed in the area will sustain them, just the improvements that ranchers do to the water in the mountains has raised elk population higher we should not raise them beyond a natural sustainable level, which feeding them does!!! </p><p>I don't think you quite comprehend the amount of elk we have, if your killing adult elk you can knock out a good percentage and you can kill bulls down to 6% of the herd with no issues and on top of that we try to target adult dry cows if we can which only increases the available feed for the cows with calves. I've seen as much as 25% of an elk herd killed during rifle season and the next year there were more elk than the year before. The issue is plain and simple the wolves!!</p><p></p><p>You need to watch this, this was made where I live and I know a good share of the ranchers well and there is no BS!! You can watch on line for free. <a href="http://cryingwolfmovie.com/" target="_blank">Crying Wolf | Exposing the Wolf Reintroduction to Yellowstone National Park</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 845043, member: 13632"] I really don't think you can understand what I'm getting at, I just wish you'd take someones word for it who lives right in the middle of this country and deals with these issues every day instead of propaganda! I helped the Idaho FWP cull on a herd of elk one summer and it was a last resort, we had placed air canons around the field, these give of a gunshot at random intervals. We'd come in at night and pushed them, one night we got in close down wind and lit them up with spot light and buzz bombs which are whistling M80s shot from a 12 gauge, there was elk running every where and I though we had them of for a while but in a couple days they were back. Finally it came to just shooting some, the unfortunate part is we were not allowed to utilize them, sometimes you can keep them or they go to the food bank but some want them left and I understand the reasoning. Making a decoy field is just a poor idea, for one you would have to take out more ground and farm it then you'd have to water it and raise a more tasty crop that would hold the elk so you'd more than double your cost, which of the top of my head would have been about $200/acre and you would have to somehow figured out a way to get water rights. And the number one reason is the elk herd should be maintained at a level the natural feed in the area will sustain them, just the improvements that ranchers do to the water in the mountains has raised elk population higher we should not raise them beyond a natural sustainable level, which feeding them does!!! I don't think you quite comprehend the amount of elk we have, if your killing adult elk you can knock out a good percentage and you can kill bulls down to 6% of the herd with no issues and on top of that we try to target adult dry cows if we can which only increases the available feed for the cows with calves. I've seen as much as 25% of an elk herd killed during rifle season and the next year there were more elk than the year before. The issue is plain and simple the wolves!! You need to watch this, this was made where I live and I know a good share of the ranchers well and there is no BS!! You can watch on line for free. [url=http://cryingwolfmovie.com/]Crying Wolf | Exposing the Wolf Reintroduction to Yellowstone National Park[/url] [/QUOTE]
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