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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 843123" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>OK, you really just want to grind some axes so lets get going, if you had 800 or more elk coming into your one source of hay for your cattle, which are your lively hood you would do anything to keep them back till you get your hay off!! Running them till their tongues hang out on motorcycles don't work, helicopters don't work and fencing does not work, at the time we had no wolves and all time elk highs and FWP would let us shoot elk to try to keep them back which works, in MT we could take and use the elk which we did. The best way to get the elk to stay back is to kill the lead cow so you don't have to kill more than you need to, lead cow sometimes would buy you two weeks! You would have to kill elk like a pack of wolves to dent the population, the populations are only as good as they are because ranchers have given elk some refuge from the wolf, what's bad for elk is also bad for cattle!! </p><p></p><p>Your running a whole lot of states and elk into one group, your elk in Wa have zero to do with ours in MT, besides when I lived in Wa I had no problem finding elk but give it a few years now you have wolves and you'll never get an elk! I do kinda understand the Indian thing but in Wa it's a whole lot different a deal than in MT.</p><p> Here in my area of MT we have the largest density of elk in MT, I pull two elk tags a year no problem and I kill two elk a year no problem, the little group of guys I hunt with usually take 20+ elk a year and all with tags easily obtained by anyone and we don't make a dent in the population. </p><p></p><p>Land owners get same tags and numbers anyone does unless issued depredation permits by FWP. One family member can get a guaranteed tag for an area that they have land in but that is the only preference given them which isn't much considering they put a lot of dollars into wildlife!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 843123, member: 13632"] OK, you really just want to grind some axes so lets get going, if you had 800 or more elk coming into your one source of hay for your cattle, which are your lively hood you would do anything to keep them back till you get your hay off!! Running them till their tongues hang out on motorcycles don't work, helicopters don't work and fencing does not work, at the time we had no wolves and all time elk highs and FWP would let us shoot elk to try to keep them back which works, in MT we could take and use the elk which we did. The best way to get the elk to stay back is to kill the lead cow so you don't have to kill more than you need to, lead cow sometimes would buy you two weeks! You would have to kill elk like a pack of wolves to dent the population, the populations are only as good as they are because ranchers have given elk some refuge from the wolf, what's bad for elk is also bad for cattle!! Your running a whole lot of states and elk into one group, your elk in Wa have zero to do with ours in MT, besides when I lived in Wa I had no problem finding elk but give it a few years now you have wolves and you'll never get an elk! I do kinda understand the Indian thing but in Wa it's a whole lot different a deal than in MT. Here in my area of MT we have the largest density of elk in MT, I pull two elk tags a year no problem and I kill two elk a year no problem, the little group of guys I hunt with usually take 20+ elk a year and all with tags easily obtained by anyone and we don't make a dent in the population. Land owners get same tags and numbers anyone does unless issued depredation permits by FWP. One family member can get a guaranteed tag for an area that they have land in but that is the only preference given them which isn't much considering they put a lot of dollars into wildlife! [/QUOTE]
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