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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 841366" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>What a pile of BS, I'm a sixth generation ranch land Montanan and I have never seen a rancher push elk or deer from grazing ground, I have shoot piles of elk in a hay field to try to keep them back so we would have hay but NEVER have I seen or heard of a rancher moving elk herds on range ground. I've never know anyone to push elk while checking cows, I've drove past thousands of elk on my way to stock the sheep herders camp and never once did it cross my mind to push the elk, nobody gives a rats rear end, it's just liberal anti rancher propaganda, PERIOD!!! Hell most of them are making as much money from elk or more than from cattle, all the livestock water that ranchers have developed have grew the elk population, I've spent many a summer fencing of riparian areas just for the elk, paid for by the ranchers.</p><p>The only reason elk are doing well in our area is it's ranch country, we shoot wolves on sight and let elk come down and feed on the fields, my boss has 1200 plus head of elk on his pivots for 3-4 months which comes out to 40-60,000 dollars worth of hay plus the fence the elk tear up but it's worth it because the elk are doing awesome even when they take a few hundred every year. </p><p>I grew up working outside in the mountains on a ranch, every day, you know every vehicle that comes into the valley, hear every shot and find all kinds of stuff while traveling through the area on horse or foot. I have found exactly ONE poached bull elk in my life time, shot in the hay field and I must have spooked them when I came up the road to move pipe because they did start to gutt it but then just took of with the head. I have never seen and Indian other than my buddy kill an elk and guess what, he uses the same tags I do and that's all he takes and all any of them I know take and he gets check by the game warden just like the rest of us!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 841366, member: 13632"] What a pile of BS, I'm a sixth generation ranch land Montanan and I have never seen a rancher push elk or deer from grazing ground, I have shoot piles of elk in a hay field to try to keep them back so we would have hay but NEVER have I seen or heard of a rancher moving elk herds on range ground. I've never know anyone to push elk while checking cows, I've drove past thousands of elk on my way to stock the sheep herders camp and never once did it cross my mind to push the elk, nobody gives a rats rear end, it's just liberal anti rancher propaganda, PERIOD!!! Hell most of them are making as much money from elk or more than from cattle, all the livestock water that ranchers have developed have grew the elk population, I've spent many a summer fencing of riparian areas just for the elk, paid for by the ranchers. The only reason elk are doing well in our area is it's ranch country, we shoot wolves on sight and let elk come down and feed on the fields, my boss has 1200 plus head of elk on his pivots for 3-4 months which comes out to 40-60,000 dollars worth of hay plus the fence the elk tear up but it's worth it because the elk are doing awesome even when they take a few hundred every year. I grew up working outside in the mountains on a ranch, every day, you know every vehicle that comes into the valley, hear every shot and find all kinds of stuff while traveling through the area on horse or foot. I have found exactly ONE poached bull elk in my life time, shot in the hay field and I must have spooked them when I came up the road to move pipe because they did start to gutt it but then just took of with the head. I have never seen and Indian other than my buddy kill an elk and guess what, he uses the same tags I do and that's all he takes and all any of them I know take and he gets check by the game warden just like the rest of us!! [/QUOTE]
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