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Ar15 build - hog rifle caliber choice
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<blockquote data-quote=".300 Dakota" data-source="post: 1673242" data-attributes="member: 106514"><p>And I'm going to turn the muddy water into quicksand. I personally loaded same Barnes TSX 70 grain in a Tikka Hunter 1:8 in ye olde .223 Remington. Gun LOVED that load! Popped 2 smaller does in the head/neck area. DRT. Then a HUGE doe walks out broadside with left side toward me at about 40 yards. I launched said Barnes bullet at said yonder deer and it hit right on target at the left shoulder blade. Bullet entered there, exited on right FLANK near hind quarter (recall deer position- BRAODSIDE = PERPENDICULAR). Deer ran 125 yards before being entangled in a copse of briers and vines. No blood trail. Entry and exit too small. Fortunately, the entanglement was within 10 yards of the far woodline she made it to. Stomach, guts, and lungs were a nice blended slurry. What a MESS! Never another deer with a .223 for me. No sir. Just because I CAN doesn't mean I SHOULD. Like with deer, if you choose to use a .22 on hogs anyway. It is a headshot only proposition. Hogs don't have necks... Of those choices, I would NOT choose the Valkyrie for the exact same reason as the poster who picked it. Fast twist, heavy bullets. Problem is, with the .22s, ALL those heavy bullets we refer to are thin-jacketed tatget bullets. Definitely not meant for a 500+-lb nrute of a boar. If you're shooting sub-100 lb pigs, well ok. Pick what you want. I wouldn't want to face down another 600-lb Cumberland boar charging through the brush with even a .220 Swift. My 7mm SAUM and 185gr Partitions didn't slow it down with a heart shot at 30 yards. Had to hit it again through both back hams putting it on the ground until the 1st shot took effect in a couple minutes. Had another one in Arkansas make it 20 yards after being hit broadside with a 300gr Game King from a 375 Ruger. Bullet did NOT exit! Broadside at 80 yards. Got 1/4 of the way to me after absorbing 5000 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. No .22 for me! My AR 15 choices look like this for huge boar:</p><p>1) .350 Legend</p><p>2) .450 Bushmaster</p><p>3) .458 SOCOM</p><p></p><p>If I HAD to choose from your list, it would be the 300 AAC all the way. You aren't going to need distance on any of the hog hunts I've seen. You're going to need energy and great shot placement. My next choice would be an SPC II. Again, you don't need the distance a Grendel provides. The SPC makes a bigger hole, and with a Barnes 120 grain, no issue with penetration. I don't believe the larger caliber would deflect like the .223 did either. Just my theory and experience. Hopefully the gentleman successfully using the 70gr Barnes as I once did won't have a failure to expand like I did. I sincerely hope I'm counted a fool for years to come and that experience is not repeated!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE=".300 Dakota, post: 1673242, member: 106514"] And I'm going to turn the muddy water into quicksand. I personally loaded same Barnes TSX 70 grain in a Tikka Hunter 1:8 in ye olde .223 Remington. Gun LOVED that load! Popped 2 smaller does in the head/neck area. DRT. Then a HUGE doe walks out broadside with left side toward me at about 40 yards. I launched said Barnes bullet at said yonder deer and it hit right on target at the left shoulder blade. Bullet entered there, exited on right FLANK near hind quarter (recall deer position- BRAODSIDE = PERPENDICULAR). Deer ran 125 yards before being entangled in a copse of briers and vines. No blood trail. Entry and exit too small. Fortunately, the entanglement was within 10 yards of the far woodline she made it to. Stomach, guts, and lungs were a nice blended slurry. What a MESS! Never another deer with a .223 for me. No sir. Just because I CAN doesn't mean I SHOULD. Like with deer, if you choose to use a .22 on hogs anyway. It is a headshot only proposition. Hogs don't have necks... Of those choices, I would NOT choose the Valkyrie for the exact same reason as the poster who picked it. Fast twist, heavy bullets. Problem is, with the .22s, ALL those heavy bullets we refer to are thin-jacketed tatget bullets. Definitely not meant for a 500+-lb nrute of a boar. If you're shooting sub-100 lb pigs, well ok. Pick what you want. I wouldn't want to face down another 600-lb Cumberland boar charging through the brush with even a .220 Swift. My 7mm SAUM and 185gr Partitions didn't slow it down with a heart shot at 30 yards. Had to hit it again through both back hams putting it on the ground until the 1st shot took effect in a couple minutes. Had another one in Arkansas make it 20 yards after being hit broadside with a 300gr Game King from a 375 Ruger. Bullet did NOT exit! Broadside at 80 yards. Got 1/4 of the way to me after absorbing 5000 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. No .22 for me! My AR 15 choices look like this for huge boar: 1) .350 Legend 2) .450 Bushmaster 3) .458 SOCOM If I HAD to choose from your list, it would be the 300 AAC all the way. You aren't going to need distance on any of the hog hunts I've seen. You're going to need energy and great shot placement. My next choice would be an SPC II. Again, you don't need the distance a Grendel provides. The SPC makes a bigger hole, and with a Barnes 120 grain, no issue with penetration. I don't believe the larger caliber would deflect like the .223 did either. Just my theory and experience. Hopefully the gentleman successfully using the 70gr Barnes as I once did won't have a failure to expand like I did. I sincerely hope I'm counted a fool for years to come and that experience is not repeated! [/QUOTE]
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