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Anyone NOT like burris fullfield II scopes?
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<blockquote data-quote="Buffalobob" data-source="post: 271253" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>IW</p><p></p><p>I have never shot a coyote in my life. I seldom hunt them. I have seen them in Wyoming at moderate ranges of 600 – 900 yards – all of them getting more distance faster than I can get set up to shoot. In good light a Luepold V3 with 50mm objective would have no trouble picking them up at and past 1K. How far past 1K is a question of how much contrast there was with the background. When they are still they can be just about invisible at any range. A Nightforce will do even better, particularly if you go to a larger objective lens such as the 56mm.</p><p></p><p>So some of it depends on how far you really wish to shoot and what price are you willing to pay to get a shot at a few animals that you probably will not hit even if you shoot. A 1K+ shot on a scrawny little coyote would be one tough shot. Some people manage it! But for me it is hard enough to hit an antelope at those ranges.</p><p></p><p>There is a thread at the top of the forum about three guys shooting a steel plate at 1918 yards. Two of those scopes are Nightforces and I am not sure what the other one is. You can ask them how clear the target was at those ranges. That black square in the middle is about quarter MOA at that range. </p><p></p><p>One thing I seldom see written about on the forum is how well a person can see in the first place. I have been slowly teaching my daughter as much about guns and optics as I can remember and demonstrate to her. The real problem she says is that her glasses prescription is not quite right and it prevents her from getting a really fine focus with any optical device. She can still see the white line around the X ring at 1K but she cannot read the numbers on the F-class target. So it is just that little bit of being off on her glasses prescription that causes a difficulty no matter whether she is looking through a Nightforce Luepold , Swaro or Kowa. Even so she is a great spotter and a really good shot. But the point is that optics aren't going to cure some problems.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buffalobob, post: 271253, member: 8"] IW I have never shot a coyote in my life. I seldom hunt them. I have seen them in Wyoming at moderate ranges of 600 – 900 yards – all of them getting more distance faster than I can get set up to shoot. In good light a Luepold V3 with 50mm objective would have no trouble picking them up at and past 1K. How far past 1K is a question of how much contrast there was with the background. When they are still they can be just about invisible at any range. A Nightforce will do even better, particularly if you go to a larger objective lens such as the 56mm. So some of it depends on how far you really wish to shoot and what price are you willing to pay to get a shot at a few animals that you probably will not hit even if you shoot. A 1K+ shot on a scrawny little coyote would be one tough shot. Some people manage it! But for me it is hard enough to hit an antelope at those ranges. There is a thread at the top of the forum about three guys shooting a steel plate at 1918 yards. Two of those scopes are Nightforces and I am not sure what the other one is. You can ask them how clear the target was at those ranges. That black square in the middle is about quarter MOA at that range. One thing I seldom see written about on the forum is how well a person can see in the first place. I have been slowly teaching my daughter as much about guns and optics as I can remember and demonstrate to her. The real problem she says is that her glasses prescription is not quite right and it prevents her from getting a really fine focus with any optical device. She can still see the white line around the X ring at 1K but she cannot read the numbers on the F-class target. So it is just that little bit of being off on her glasses prescription that causes a difficulty no matter whether she is looking through a Nightforce Luepold , Swaro or Kowa. Even so she is a great spotter and a really good shot. But the point is that optics aren’t going to cure some problems. [/QUOTE]
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