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Any recommended gun safes? Liberty Revere 72 vs Cannon Wide Body 64??
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<blockquote data-quote="azsugarbear" data-source="post: 2496163" data-attributes="member: 4809"><p>Most of the 'safes' being discussed on here are not actually safes, but rather residential security containers (RSC's). The security industry makes a big distinction between the two. Safes are difficult to break into, while RSC's - not so much. A decent safe starts around $3.5k and goes up quickly from there. Take a look at Sturdy Safes out of California. They are one of the 'better buy' safes that are friendly to budgets. Lots of law enforcement agencies buy their safes here.</p><p></p><p>Most of the time, RSC's will get the job done for the typical gun owner. You cannot tell much from the weight of a safe alone. A lot of RSC's are made with concrete in the bottom to increase weight. A much better indicator is the guage of the steel in the side walls & front door (not total width of door, but inches of steel in the door). This spec is often hard to obtain as most mfg's don't want to disclose just how thin the steel in their RSC's really is.</p><p></p><p>Most RSC's have enough size, weight and lock sophistication to deter most burglars. They want to be in and out quick. Bolt the RSC down to the floor with lag bolts. Place the safe away from entry doors and garages so moving it would require time and hassle. Fireproofing or fire rating of an RSC is usually accomplished by wedging pieces of sheetrock between the outer and inner walls. Save yourself some money and make your RSC more secure by building/framing a wall around and over the top of your RSC clad with several layers of sheetrock. Not only will this give you your fireproofing, but it also severely limits access to the RSC by would-be burglars.</p><p></p><p>I always have my eye out for older models. They typically used more steel in them. AMSEC used to make a really great, yet inexpensive RSC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azsugarbear, post: 2496163, member: 4809"] Most of the 'safes' being discussed on here are not actually safes, but rather residential security containers (RSC's). The security industry makes a big distinction between the two. Safes are difficult to break into, while RSC's - not so much. A decent safe starts around $3.5k and goes up quickly from there. Take a look at Sturdy Safes out of California. They are one of the 'better buy' safes that are friendly to budgets. Lots of law enforcement agencies buy their safes here. Most of the time, RSC's will get the job done for the typical gun owner. You cannot tell much from the weight of a safe alone. A lot of RSC's are made with concrete in the bottom to increase weight. A much better indicator is the guage of the steel in the side walls & front door (not total width of door, but inches of steel in the door). This spec is often hard to obtain as most mfg's don't want to disclose just how thin the steel in their RSC's really is. Most RSC's have enough size, weight and lock sophistication to deter most burglars. They want to be in and out quick. Bolt the RSC down to the floor with lag bolts. Place the safe away from entry doors and garages so moving it would require time and hassle. Fireproofing or fire rating of an RSC is usually accomplished by wedging pieces of sheetrock between the outer and inner walls. Save yourself some money and make your RSC more secure by building/framing a wall around and over the top of your RSC clad with several layers of sheetrock. Not only will this give you your fireproofing, but it also severely limits access to the RSC by would-be burglars. I always have my eye out for older models. They typically used more steel in them. AMSEC used to make a really great, yet inexpensive RSC. [/QUOTE]
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