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<blockquote data-quote="joejo" data-source="post: 916969" data-attributes="member: 26396"><p>montanarifleman, before you go and push blame on unions for the condition of this country educate yourself on unions a bit first. you only cited 2 unions. yes, those two, they hurt themselves, however there are thousands of other labor unions that benefit their members greatly. unions weren't the only reason for the steel industry collapse in pittsburgh and johnstown either. (yes i am from the area) DEP had alot to do with it too. Did you know that you couldn't build a blast furnace in the us if you wanted to. us steel, i am sure would love to build new furnaces and rolling mills, and coke ovens but its not their union wages holding them back.</p><p> </p><p>i am so tired of hearing the "protect the lazy" and "corrupt" comments when a union statement comes up. do you think for a second that any buisness isn't corrupt to some level?</p><p> </p><p>i for one am a meber of a building trades union. there is absolutely no protection for me if i am lazy or can't preform. i am subject to firing anytime.</p><p> </p><p>what my union does do for me is negotiate a favorable working wage and benefit package so that some day i may be able to retire before age 65. not that any ironworker could preform his duties at that age anyway.</p><p> </p><p>i just think alot of folks hear democrat or union and assume the worst. </p><p>end rant, i could go on but i won't. </p><p> </p><p>Ford and leupold get my business btw. although i do own nightforce. oh and my work boots are union made in wisconsin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joejo, post: 916969, member: 26396"] montanarifleman, before you go and push blame on unions for the condition of this country educate yourself on unions a bit first. you only cited 2 unions. yes, those two, they hurt themselves, however there are thousands of other labor unions that benefit their members greatly. unions weren't the only reason for the steel industry collapse in pittsburgh and johnstown either. (yes i am from the area) DEP had alot to do with it too. Did you know that you couldn't build a blast furnace in the us if you wanted to. us steel, i am sure would love to build new furnaces and rolling mills, and coke ovens but its not their union wages holding them back. i am so tired of hearing the "protect the lazy" and "corrupt" comments when a union statement comes up. do you think for a second that any buisness isn't corrupt to some level? i for one am a meber of a building trades union. there is absolutely no protection for me if i am lazy or can't preform. i am subject to firing anytime. what my union does do for me is negotiate a favorable working wage and benefit package so that some day i may be able to retire before age 65. not that any ironworker could preform his duties at that age anyway. i just think alot of folks hear democrat or union and assume the worst. end rant, i could go on but i won't. Ford and leupold get my business btw. although i do own nightforce. oh and my work boots are union made in wisconsin. [/QUOTE]
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