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<blockquote data-quote="brcfo_outdoors" data-source="post: 2916237" data-attributes="member: 113623"><p>As others have mentioned, at some point it really comes down to your eye and personal judgement/preference. I walked down a line of someone who had a Leupold Mk5, TT, Vortex Razor Gen III, ZCO, and maybe a Kahles (I don't quite remember) all mounted to a board so you could test all of them. They all had great and exceptionally useable glass, and you really start splitting hairs over the minute and subtle differences in the glass quality. The problem is everything else on the scope is also a factor. For me, the Kahles have the best controls especially with the left side parallax but have the reputation for being fragile and a bit over priced. Vortex is stupid heavy and I don't like the process for zeroing the turrets but has a great warranty. NF ATACR is way over rated and I find the rotating eye pieces to be a lazy design holdover from the NXS and frustrating while using lens caps in addition to their reticles being unintuitive. Leupold has had reported tracking issues since forever. Brand loyalty and tribalism also plays a role as people try to justify whatever it is they have personally spent money on. At some point there is also the question of diminishing returns, is the TT really $2k better than a Vortex? Only you as the end user can decide that for yourself, and both will show you what you need to put holes in with great clarity.</p><p></p><p>The moral of this story is that each brand has its strengths and weaknesses, and there are a lot of other great brands out there besides the few "top tier" brands being constantly regurgitated here. I am partial to Element Optics and the Theos is one of the best combination of glass quality, weight, user friends controls/turrets, magnification, and reticle designs that I have found. It fits <em>my</em> personal needs and requirements and I also paid $2150 US for it as opposed to $5k. I would say there aren't any great range finding scopes on the market so I would factor a quality rangefinder into your budget as well since guns are addicting and chances are you will buy another one in the future so a handheld RF will be more universal. Revic, Sig, Leica, Vortex all make great rangefinders.</p><p></p><p>Good luck and enjoy!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brcfo_outdoors, post: 2916237, member: 113623"] As others have mentioned, at some point it really comes down to your eye and personal judgement/preference. I walked down a line of someone who had a Leupold Mk5, TT, Vortex Razor Gen III, ZCO, and maybe a Kahles (I don't quite remember) all mounted to a board so you could test all of them. They all had great and exceptionally useable glass, and you really start splitting hairs over the minute and subtle differences in the glass quality. The problem is everything else on the scope is also a factor. For me, the Kahles have the best controls especially with the left side parallax but have the reputation for being fragile and a bit over priced. Vortex is stupid heavy and I don't like the process for zeroing the turrets but has a great warranty. NF ATACR is way over rated and I find the rotating eye pieces to be a lazy design holdover from the NXS and frustrating while using lens caps in addition to their reticles being unintuitive. Leupold has had reported tracking issues since forever. Brand loyalty and tribalism also plays a role as people try to justify whatever it is they have personally spent money on. At some point there is also the question of diminishing returns, is the TT really $2k better than a Vortex? Only you as the end user can decide that for yourself, and both will show you what you need to put holes in with great clarity. The moral of this story is that each brand has its strengths and weaknesses, and there are a lot of other great brands out there besides the few "top tier" brands being constantly regurgitated here. I am partial to Element Optics and the Theos is one of the best combination of glass quality, weight, user friends controls/turrets, magnification, and reticle designs that I have found. It fits [I]my[/I] personal needs and requirements and I also paid $2150 US for it as opposed to $5k. I would say there aren't any great range finding scopes on the market so I would factor a quality rangefinder into your budget as well since guns are addicting and chances are you will buy another one in the future so a handheld RF will be more universal. Revic, Sig, Leica, Vortex all make great rangefinders. Good luck and enjoy! [/QUOTE]
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