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Accuracy: Tale of Two New Model 70s
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<blockquote data-quote="IridiumRed" data-source="post: 3064201" data-attributes="member: 24315"><p>Like to add to everyone mentioning barrel contact... i bet that stock is pushing on the barrel. You MIGHT be able to do a "quick fix" by putting something down inside stock / under action to shim it higher (like cardboard stock from a cereal box), if you can shim front and rear equally, not put a bunch of unequal load / bending force on it, and if the barrel is now not touching the dtock, it -might- just shoot better (if it does, then it indicates rifle needs a good bedding job done and barrel channel clearanced as necessary). Thats achange that could be easily undone too if you wanted to explore warranty options</p><p></p><p>Also! Check the crown! Could have a big nick / burr / cleaning damage.... or just be uneven</p><p></p><p>Bad crown will destroy accuracy!</p><p></p><p>One other thing, it could be scope / mount issue. If it comes down to it swap everything over from good shooting rifle. Make sure everything is tight, make sure mounting surfaces are clean (no crap caught in between, making mount want to rock around). Make sure that the scope mount bases arent putting a lot of bending moment on the scope by pointing in different directions. </p><p></p><p>All of this wild shooting could simply be a loose scope mount, or a bad scope. Or hell, could be a too long front scope mount screw hanging down far enough inside front ring to make light contact w upper bolt lug when locked into battery (thats a super oddball / rare condition... but can cause wild shots... that will make everyone pull their hair out trying to find... again, rare, but i remember things like that as stuff to try / think about if you start running out of options / have tried everything else...)</p><p></p><p>And, ill echo what was said earlier about pencil weight barrel. Could just be moving while hot (which could be due to / influenced by bedding, or could be a bunch of internal stress literally hammered into barrel). Id try bringing rifle to range w something else, and shooting one round at a time w like 5 minutes between every shot.. just to see how that goes</p><p></p><p>One final thing, if you had bore scope, would be interesting to start w clean barrel, scope it, start shooting, and check barrel after a few shots. Could have rough / defective spot in barrel that picks up a ton of fouling... could be anywhere in barrel but id be looking particularly at the first and last inch or two.</p><p></p><p>Wow, didnt intend to write a book, just kinda came out <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>If it were me, i might start w the barrel scope if the barrel is in fouled (shot) condition, just because that only takes a few minutes, but i have a borescpe / wouldnt buy one just for this reason. Id try to check crown if you have any way to see it w magnification (again, fast easy). Then id be looking at bedding, scope / mount</p><p></p><p>Whatever happens, best of luck to you, and let us know if you figure it out!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IridiumRed, post: 3064201, member: 24315"] Like to add to everyone mentioning barrel contact... i bet that stock is pushing on the barrel. You MIGHT be able to do a "quick fix" by putting something down inside stock / under action to shim it higher (like cardboard stock from a cereal box), if you can shim front and rear equally, not put a bunch of unequal load / bending force on it, and if the barrel is now not touching the dtock, it -might- just shoot better (if it does, then it indicates rifle needs a good bedding job done and barrel channel clearanced as necessary). Thats achange that could be easily undone too if you wanted to explore warranty options Also! Check the crown! Could have a big nick / burr / cleaning damage.... or just be uneven Bad crown will destroy accuracy! One other thing, it could be scope / mount issue. If it comes down to it swap everything over from good shooting rifle. Make sure everything is tight, make sure mounting surfaces are clean (no crap caught in between, making mount want to rock around). Make sure that the scope mount bases arent putting a lot of bending moment on the scope by pointing in different directions. All of this wild shooting could simply be a loose scope mount, or a bad scope. Or hell, could be a too long front scope mount screw hanging down far enough inside front ring to make light contact w upper bolt lug when locked into battery (thats a super oddball / rare condition... but can cause wild shots... that will make everyone pull their hair out trying to find... again, rare, but i remember things like that as stuff to try / think about if you start running out of options / have tried everything else...) And, ill echo what was said earlier about pencil weight barrel. Could just be moving while hot (which could be due to / influenced by bedding, or could be a bunch of internal stress literally hammered into barrel). Id try bringing rifle to range w something else, and shooting one round at a time w like 5 minutes between every shot.. just to see how that goes One final thing, if you had bore scope, would be interesting to start w clean barrel, scope it, start shooting, and check barrel after a few shots. Could have rough / defective spot in barrel that picks up a ton of fouling... could be anywhere in barrel but id be looking particularly at the first and last inch or two. Wow, didnt intend to write a book, just kinda came out :) If it were me, i might start w the barrel scope if the barrel is in fouled (shot) condition, just because that only takes a few minutes, but i have a borescpe / wouldnt buy one just for this reason. Id try to check crown if you have any way to see it w magnification (again, fast easy). Then id be looking at bedding, scope / mount Whatever happens, best of luck to you, and let us know if you figure it out! [/QUOTE]
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