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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 224410" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>When backpack hunting or long day hiking I think a guy needs to realistically look at about a half mile gun. In some circumstances you can stretch it out beyond that if you are exceptionally good at what you do. I am 6-2 and a very trim 215 pounds and a fairly strong hunter and a rifle that hits 11 pounds gets really tuff backpacking or hiking all day. I have quite a few rifles I backpack with that are extremely accurate between 9 1/4 and 10-3/4 pounds and if you know what you are doing they have the capability of going beyond 1000 yards. They all have 28"-30" barrels except the 338 Lapua's. </p><p></p><p>I have 6, 338-378 weatherby's and three of these are the only rifles I hunt with over ten pounds. That is because of the heavy MK 5 action. The other three are on Ruger # 1's and are right at ten pounds. The accuracy loads all shoot the 300 matchking between 3000 and 3100 fps, the 250's between 3250 and 3375 fps and the 200's between 3550 and 3750 fps. My wife put five shots through a 4" bullseye at the quarter mile target while shooting off the bipod in a simulated hunting situation getting ready for her elk hunt. Her load was 132.5 grains of H-870 with a 200 grain nosler BT averaging 3633 fps. She later made a great shot on a big bull. I have made numerous long shots on game with these rifles and they are by far the hardest hitters I have ever seen on game animals. Basically they are just incredible performers on big game animals and why I end up going to them most of the time. I have built and shot all kinds of wildcats for 35 years and I have still not found anything that can beat these rifles and stay in the 10 pound range.</p><p></p><p>The following are on lighter Sako actions and all in the 9 pound range and all are exceptional shooters. </p><p></p><p>Three 338-300 ultramags with 28" barrels. The accuracy loads all shoot the 300 matchking from 2775-2825 fps, the 250 from 3075-3125 fps and the 200 from 3335-3385 fps. This cartridge is one of the most incredibly accurate cartridges I have ever worked with. The 338-378's I can work on and get to shoot. The 338-300 ultramag just flat out shoots. These are the poor mans 338-378's since they can be built safely on a standard mag action and produce enough velocity with big heavy bullets to shoot as far as anyone would want to shoot at game. I built 65 of these in 1999 alone and kept these three shooters for myself. I have made some awesome shots with them.</p><p></p><p>Two 338 Lapuas with 26" barrels. The accuracy loads average right at 3150 fps with the 250 grain and 3435-3475 fps with the 200's. They both kick like a mule with the 300's bucking that little 26" tube pretty hard so I just use these with the lighter bullets. The Lapua is also a pleasure to work with and can be improved into even a more efficient cartridge. Unfortunately I never kept one of the improved versions for myself. A lot of guys liked them because it was a shorter more efficient case allowing bullets loaded out to the lands to feed through 378 length actions.</p><p></p><p>Two 300 ultramags with 28" barrels shooting 200 grain bullets in the 3220-3260 fps range, the 180's at 3425-3450 and 150's just over 3700 fps. Off a bipod in a hunting situation I put three bullets through a 4" bullseye at the half mile target using 150 grain Hornady SST's flying 3734 fps while preparing for an Alaskan caribou hunt. I used them on the hunt and took one bull at just over a quarter mile and another at just under a half mile. Bullet performance was perfect. Just to light for me. When I shoot I like to see stuff fall right there and not run 200 yards. Just as dead just not my prefference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 224410, member: 505"] When backpack hunting or long day hiking I think a guy needs to realistically look at about a half mile gun. In some circumstances you can stretch it out beyond that if you are exceptionally good at what you do. I am 6-2 and a very trim 215 pounds and a fairly strong hunter and a rifle that hits 11 pounds gets really tuff backpacking or hiking all day. I have quite a few rifles I backpack with that are extremely accurate between 9 1/4 and 10-3/4 pounds and if you know what you are doing they have the capability of going beyond 1000 yards. They all have 28"-30" barrels except the 338 Lapua's. I have 6, 338-378 weatherby's and three of these are the only rifles I hunt with over ten pounds. That is because of the heavy MK 5 action. The other three are on Ruger # 1's and are right at ten pounds. The accuracy loads all shoot the 300 matchking between 3000 and 3100 fps, the 250's between 3250 and 3375 fps and the 200's between 3550 and 3750 fps. My wife put five shots through a 4" bullseye at the quarter mile target while shooting off the bipod in a simulated hunting situation getting ready for her elk hunt. Her load was 132.5 grains of H-870 with a 200 grain nosler BT averaging 3633 fps. She later made a great shot on a big bull. I have made numerous long shots on game with these rifles and they are by far the hardest hitters I have ever seen on game animals. Basically they are just incredible performers on big game animals and why I end up going to them most of the time. I have built and shot all kinds of wildcats for 35 years and I have still not found anything that can beat these rifles and stay in the 10 pound range. The following are on lighter Sako actions and all in the 9 pound range and all are exceptional shooters. Three 338-300 ultramags with 28" barrels. The accuracy loads all shoot the 300 matchking from 2775-2825 fps, the 250 from 3075-3125 fps and the 200 from 3335-3385 fps. This cartridge is one of the most incredibly accurate cartridges I have ever worked with. The 338-378's I can work on and get to shoot. The 338-300 ultramag just flat out shoots. These are the poor mans 338-378's since they can be built safely on a standard mag action and produce enough velocity with big heavy bullets to shoot as far as anyone would want to shoot at game. I built 65 of these in 1999 alone and kept these three shooters for myself. I have made some awesome shots with them. Two 338 Lapuas with 26" barrels. The accuracy loads average right at 3150 fps with the 250 grain and 3435-3475 fps with the 200's. They both kick like a mule with the 300's bucking that little 26" tube pretty hard so I just use these with the lighter bullets. The Lapua is also a pleasure to work with and can be improved into even a more efficient cartridge. Unfortunately I never kept one of the improved versions for myself. A lot of guys liked them because it was a shorter more efficient case allowing bullets loaded out to the lands to feed through 378 length actions. Two 300 ultramags with 28" barrels shooting 200 grain bullets in the 3220-3260 fps range, the 180's at 3425-3450 and 150's just over 3700 fps. Off a bipod in a hunting situation I put three bullets through a 4" bullseye at the half mile target using 150 grain Hornady SST's flying 3734 fps while preparing for an Alaskan caribou hunt. I used them on the hunt and took one bull at just over a quarter mile and another at just under a half mile. Bullet performance was perfect. Just to light for me. When I shoot I like to see stuff fall right there and not run 200 yards. Just as dead just not my prefference. [/QUOTE]
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