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<blockquote data-quote="M Rosslee" data-source="post: 1171538" data-attributes="member: 94998"><p>For some perspective I think it depends on the discipline. </p><p></p><p>In South Africa we have a divided hunting community - the "kopskoot konings" and the "bladskoot bulle." (head shot guys and shoulder shot guys). </p><p></p><p>If you shoot to brain an animal or shut down its primary organs with immediate effect, you're going to need to shoot no more than MOA groups. Basically I'm setting it out as 1" x 1" at 100m and 2" x 2" at 200m (and further than that the guys usually don't attempt brain shots). These groups must be attainable consistently and the shooter must be in a comfortable position to execute shots of this nature (off of the back of a truck or a good prone or sitting position with a decent rifle rest).</p><p></p><p>If you shoot shoulder shots and your aim is to effectively damage the primary vital organs for rapid expiry of the target animal (which it should be), I'd say its subjective and dependent on the circumstances. But without playing the circumstances game - you should be able to shoot a <u>fist-sized group</u> at whatever distance you intend on hunting at. This is generally reflective of a medium-sized game animal's heart, which is the gold-medal in terms of primary-organs. </p><p></p><p>Consider the terrain that you will be hunting.</p><p></p><p>In South Africa, the general rule is 150m in the bushveld (dense woodland areas) and 300m on the "vlaktes" (open plains). </p><p></p><p>Farmers and hunting guides here won't let you shoot if they are uncomfortable with your shooting abilities and often a full day can be spent on the range setting rifles and frustrating one another. </p><p></p><p>It is important to be well-versed and acquainted with your firearm before entering the field and firing three shots at 1.5 MOA group size at 100m should not be too much to ask from the average hunter. That is a 1.5"x1.5" block (roughly speaking) over the shooting sticks - as the veld here as well as the close proximity to the hunted species in the bushveld do not allow for hunters to bring along the range's benchrest. Be well versed in firing rounds from positions other than the comfort of the bench.</p><p></p><p>It's important not to bring your shooting range habits into the bush... Concentrate on a quick, clean and ethical kill. You don't need a 1/4MOA grouping rifle to do that...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="M Rosslee, post: 1171538, member: 94998"] For some perspective I think it depends on the discipline. In South Africa we have a divided hunting community - the "kopskoot konings" and the "bladskoot bulle." (head shot guys and shoulder shot guys). If you shoot to brain an animal or shut down its primary organs with immediate effect, you're going to need to shoot no more than MOA groups. Basically I'm setting it out as 1" x 1" at 100m and 2" x 2" at 200m (and further than that the guys usually don't attempt brain shots). These groups must be attainable consistently and the shooter must be in a comfortable position to execute shots of this nature (off of the back of a truck or a good prone or sitting position with a decent rifle rest). If you shoot shoulder shots and your aim is to effectively damage the primary vital organs for rapid expiry of the target animal (which it should be), I'd say its subjective and dependent on the circumstances. But without playing the circumstances game - you should be able to shoot a [U]fist-sized group[/U] at whatever distance you intend on hunting at. This is generally reflective of a medium-sized game animal's heart, which is the gold-medal in terms of primary-organs. Consider the terrain that you will be hunting. In South Africa, the general rule is 150m in the bushveld (dense woodland areas) and 300m on the "vlaktes" (open plains). Farmers and hunting guides here won't let you shoot if they are uncomfortable with your shooting abilities and often a full day can be spent on the range setting rifles and frustrating one another. It is important to be well-versed and acquainted with your firearm before entering the field and firing three shots at 1.5 MOA group size at 100m should not be too much to ask from the average hunter. That is a 1.5"x1.5" block (roughly speaking) over the shooting sticks - as the veld here as well as the close proximity to the hunted species in the bushveld do not allow for hunters to bring along the range's benchrest. Be well versed in firing rounds from positions other than the comfort of the bench. It's important not to bring your shooting range habits into the bush... Concentrate on a quick, clean and ethical kill. You don't need a 1/4MOA grouping rifle to do that... [/QUOTE]
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