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<blockquote data-quote="goodgrouper" data-source="post: 196196" data-attributes="member: 2852"><p>I just found this thread tonight after a fellow member pointed it out to me. While I surely did not read every post (nor will I) there were several points that stood out in what I did read.</p><p></p><p>First, and correct me if I'm wrong, someone was harping on someone else that a shot looked like it didn't go where it was intended on a video? Well, from killing hoards of animals from 600 yards out to 2000 yards and videotaping most of them, I have come to one conclusion: You can't always see everything from videotape. You must simply have to be there on the spot sometimes to see the correct thing. I have watched my video of my cow moose I shot this year at 982 yards probably 1000 times and still can't quite see exactly where my first bullet that hit her went even though I know from skinning it out that it went into the chest somewhere from the upper part of her back. But someone watching it might think shot missed entirely.</p><p></p><p>Second, I have been around hunting long enough to know that **** happens sometimes no matter how well prepared and how lucky you are. That is just how it is. Eventually, even the luckiest guy has his luck run out.</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, I am in the party that believes no harm no foul. Worrying about the what-ifs after the fact is a waste of time. Partly because of the fact that if you weren't there, you weren't there and that will change the perspective almost certainly.</p><p></p><p>Fourth, an animal that is hit in the shoulder/spine can absolutely immediately tuck just it's back legs and hit butt first. The bull moose my friend shot just after I shot my cow moose did this very thing. The bullet hit it dead center high shoulder/spine and it hit butt first and then whiplashed it's nose into the dirt. It wiggled and ran upside down for a minute and then was still.</p><p></p><p>There have also been probably half a dozen elk I have shot that were punched in the shoulder and folded their back legs first. This is not surprising to me at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And lastly, I am guilty of letting someone else shoot my rifle to kill a long range animal when they had never shot long distance before. I know this goes against the collective but I don't apologize. It worked out every time without a loss of animal and it converted a couple non-believers into pro-long range hunters in about 1.02 seconds flight time. I knew if they did what I told them to do, my coaching and equipment would be up to the task. And besides, I wouldn't feel very good about myself if I knew I could help someone fill their tag on the last day and didn't.</p><p></p><p>While I don't agree with all of John Burn's methods (like BDC dials), he has taken a lot of flack from the general uneducated public on our behalf and it ain't easy to put up with that.</p><p></p><p>Btw, I have video of the moose that could be put on here if someone wants to see them and will put them on here for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodgrouper, post: 196196, member: 2852"] I just found this thread tonight after a fellow member pointed it out to me. While I surely did not read every post (nor will I) there were several points that stood out in what I did read. First, and correct me if I'm wrong, someone was harping on someone else that a shot looked like it didn't go where it was intended on a video? Well, from killing hoards of animals from 600 yards out to 2000 yards and videotaping most of them, I have come to one conclusion: You can't always see everything from videotape. You must simply have to be there on the spot sometimes to see the correct thing. I have watched my video of my cow moose I shot this year at 982 yards probably 1000 times and still can't quite see exactly where my first bullet that hit her went even though I know from skinning it out that it went into the chest somewhere from the upper part of her back. But someone watching it might think shot missed entirely. Second, I have been around hunting long enough to know that **** happens sometimes no matter how well prepared and how lucky you are. That is just how it is. Eventually, even the luckiest guy has his luck run out. Thirdly, I am in the party that believes no harm no foul. Worrying about the what-ifs after the fact is a waste of time. Partly because of the fact that if you weren't there, you weren't there and that will change the perspective almost certainly. Fourth, an animal that is hit in the shoulder/spine can absolutely immediately tuck just it's back legs and hit butt first. The bull moose my friend shot just after I shot my cow moose did this very thing. The bullet hit it dead center high shoulder/spine and it hit butt first and then whiplashed it's nose into the dirt. It wiggled and ran upside down for a minute and then was still. There have also been probably half a dozen elk I have shot that were punched in the shoulder and folded their back legs first. This is not surprising to me at all. And lastly, I am guilty of letting someone else shoot my rifle to kill a long range animal when they had never shot long distance before. I know this goes against the collective but I don't apologize. It worked out every time without a loss of animal and it converted a couple non-believers into pro-long range hunters in about 1.02 seconds flight time. I knew if they did what I told them to do, my coaching and equipment would be up to the task. And besides, I wouldn't feel very good about myself if I knew I could help someone fill their tag on the last day and didn't. While I don't agree with all of John Burn's methods (like BDC dials), he has taken a lot of flack from the general uneducated public on our behalf and it ain't easy to put up with that. Btw, I have video of the moose that could be put on here if someone wants to see them and will put them on here for me. [/QUOTE]
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