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<blockquote data-quote="Shawn Carlock" data-source="post: 194036" data-attributes="member: 4"><p>John,</p><p> </p><p>I will say that you were there and I was not. So if you say it was a high shoulder hit I am not going to say it was not. I first noticed that the bulls butt hit the ground before the shoulders even moved. I have seen this to be consistant with spine hits closer to the pelvis than the shoulder. It is not a fool proof indication just something I look at. The other issue in my opinion of the hit being too far back is the blood streaming from a spot about 10-12" forward of the pelvis and a good distance back from the shoulder. I suspose this could be an exit wound on the same side as the impact? I have seen strange bullet routes in bodies both animal and human. The two effects in concert are what formed my opinion as they go hand in hand, from my experience. If it was in fact a high shoulder hit and the bullet turned 90 degrees after impacting something hard traveled down the spine turned again and exited the left hand side (impact side) of the body, then I stand corrected. I use this shot as an example why the high shoulder shot is a good shot to take. Since most shot errors are in windage it allows for some mechanical error in windage and still be a good shot. However as the shot moves back it is a small window in elevation to become a poor shot. As I said in the begining of this post, the shot has all the appearances fo being too far back despite hitting the spine and dropping the bull. I was not there and you were so if you say it was a high shoulder hit I will accept that, even though there is nothing I see on the video to indicate or support that it was a high shoulder hit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shawn Carlock, post: 194036, member: 4"] John, I will say that you were there and I was not. So if you say it was a high shoulder hit I am not going to say it was not. I first noticed that the bulls butt hit the ground before the shoulders even moved. I have seen this to be consistant with spine hits closer to the pelvis than the shoulder. It is not a fool proof indication just something I look at. The other issue in my opinion of the hit being too far back is the blood streaming from a spot about 10-12" forward of the pelvis and a good distance back from the shoulder. I suspose this could be an exit wound on the same side as the impact? I have seen strange bullet routes in bodies both animal and human. The two effects in concert are what formed my opinion as they go hand in hand, from my experience. If it was in fact a high shoulder hit and the bullet turned 90 degrees after impacting something hard traveled down the spine turned again and exited the left hand side (impact side) of the body, then I stand corrected. I use this shot as an example why the high shoulder shot is a good shot to take. Since most shot errors are in windage it allows for some mechanical error in windage and still be a good shot. However as the shot moves back it is a small window in elevation to become a poor shot. As I said in the begining of this post, the shot has all the appearances fo being too far back despite hitting the spine and dropping the bull. I was not there and you were so if you say it was a high shoulder hit I will accept that, even though there is nothing I see on the video to indicate or support that it was a high shoulder hit. [/QUOTE]
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