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A question about custom actions.
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<blockquote data-quote="Murphy&#039;s Law" data-source="post: 448308" data-attributes="member: 28981"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">300R – thanks for the heads up re the .280 AI. I'd really prefer a custom build from the ground up however, using one of the 700 clones. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Do you hunt with the surgeon action rifles or are they range guns? If you hunt with them how have you found they handle the dust etc that inevitably finds its way into the action? My gunsmith believes the bolt body to action clearance of the Surgeon is so tight it may bind if muck gets into it in a hunting situation.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Boss Hoss, Big Sky GP, Mikecr, Long Bomber – clearly I have got off on the wrong foot due to my unfortunate choice of words in the original post. I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. I can assure you I am not a rifle (or anything else for that matter) abuser. With the exception of a HS Precision .223 all of my rifles are either classic or custom bolt actions and single shots featuring beautiful walnut stocks, rust blueing, colour case hardening and engraving etc. I also own a couple of doubles. I hunt with all of them and won't own a rifle I am too scared to hunt with. They are all in excellent condition and all show that patina that only comes with careful hunting use.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Having said all that I recently did a trip to New Zealand to hunt free range Tahr on public land in the alps of the Southern Island. I had been warned that the hunting conditions would be very harsh but I didn't expect what I experienced there. I took along my Blaser K95 single shot in 7x65R using 162 gn A Max projectiles – it is a lovely little light weight rifle designed, I thought, for such mountain hunting. What I experienced there was definitely the most physically demanding hunting I have ever done. Once an animal is spotted from the river bed a hard climb up the mountain side is required. I reckon the hills were anywhere from 45 to 60 degrees, covered in tussocks, rocks hidden by long grass, creek crossings, scree slopes, bluffs to climb around etc. No matter how careful I tried to be with my Blaser it still got some bumps and scratches. That was ok because I considered that to be fair wear and tear. It was when I fell off an 8' drop onto a slip and slid to the bottom and hit a rock that cracked the fore end and snapped off one of the QD mount levers that I decided I needed a more suitable weapon. That and the long ranges involved in hunting these things.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">So………what I would like to end up with is a nice looking and practical stainless/synthetic hunting rifle capable of accurate shots on up to elk sized animals at up to 800 yds. It will also need to be light enough to carry all day in these NZ mountains – so a finished weight of < 8 lbs if possible.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">My thoughts so far are to use one of the custom actions, Jewell trigger, 26" fluted barrel, McMillan edge stock with blind mag, Talley light weight mounts and a compact scope with turrets (NXS 2.5–10x32 Perhaps??).</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">As per the original post I am chasing some input from you guys on the actions mentioned – Surgeon vs Borden.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I'm also not sure on the chambering. I'm torn between one of the 7mm's and the .300's so any recommendations there would be much appreciated. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I hope this clears the air guys.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Cheers.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">M's L</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Murphy's Law, post: 448308, member: 28981"] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]300R – thanks for the heads up re the .280 AI. I’d really prefer a custom build from the ground up however, using one of the 700 clones. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Do you hunt with the surgeon action rifles or are they range guns? If you hunt with them how have you found they handle the dust etc that inevitably finds its way into the action? My gunsmith believes the bolt body to action clearance of the Surgeon is so tight it may bind if muck gets into it in a hunting situation.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Boss Hoss, Big Sky GP, Mikecr, Long Bomber – clearly I have got off on the wrong foot due to my unfortunate choice of words in the original post. I’m sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. I can assure you I am not a rifle (or anything else for that matter) abuser. With the exception of a HS Precision .223 all of my rifles are either classic or custom bolt actions and single shots featuring beautiful walnut stocks, rust blueing, colour case hardening and engraving etc. I also own a couple of doubles. I hunt with all of them and won’t own a rifle I am too scared to hunt with. They are all in excellent condition and all show that patina that only comes with careful hunting use.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Having said all that I recently did a trip to New Zealand to hunt free range Tahr on public land in the alps of the Southern Island. I had been warned that the hunting conditions would be very harsh but I didn’t expect what I experienced there. I took along my Blaser K95 single shot in 7x65R using 162 gn A Max projectiles – it is a lovely little light weight rifle designed, I thought, for such mountain hunting. What I experienced there was definitely the most physically demanding hunting I have ever done. Once an animal is spotted from the river bed a hard climb up the mountain side is required. I reckon the hills were anywhere from 45 to 60 degrees, covered in tussocks, rocks hidden by long grass, creek crossings, scree slopes, bluffs to climb around etc. No matter how careful I tried to be with my Blaser it still got some bumps and scratches. That was ok because I considered that to be fair wear and tear. It was when I fell off an 8’ drop onto a slip and slid to the bottom and hit a rock that cracked the fore end and snapped off one of the QD mount levers that I decided I needed a more suitable weapon. That and the long ranges involved in hunting these things.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]So………what I would like to end up with is a nice looking and practical stainless/synthetic hunting rifle capable of accurate shots on up to elk sized animals at up to 800 yds. It will also need to be light enough to carry all day in these NZ mountains – so a finished weight of < 8 lbs if possible.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]My thoughts so far are to use one of the custom actions, Jewell trigger, 26” fluted barrel, McMillan edge stock with blind mag, Talley light weight mounts and a compact scope with turrets (NXS 2.5–10x32 Perhaps??).[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]As per the original post I am chasing some input from you guys on the actions mentioned – Surgeon vs Borden.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]I’m also not sure on the chambering. I’m torn between one of the 7mm’s and the .300’s so any recommendations there would be much appreciated. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]I hope this clears the air guys.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Cheers.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]M’s L[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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