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A long range build question
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<blockquote data-quote="CRNA" data-source="post: 592463" data-attributes="member: 22495"><p>Don't forget the other costs that go into this hobby. There's more than just the rifle, so you have to figure that into your budget. For instance, you will definitely want to hand load your own ammo at some point in time. Depending on what press, dies, scales, and all of the other gadgets and tools that go into making consistent ammo, you can have a small fortune in that alone. One thing that you are definitely going to need is a good rangefinder. Without knowing the precise range of a target, you might as well just by a belt-fed machine gun and shoot until you hit the target because that is what you would be doing one shot at a time without knowing the range. You will also need some type of ballistics calculator to get your "dope" on your scope at that range. This can be achieved for about $20 for a good ballistics app for an ipod or iphone for example. There's also chronographs, which will tell you how fast your bullet is flying (another factor to input into your ballistics calculator that is critical for knowing the bullet drops). Then stuff that some say you may or may not be able to live with like shooting mats, bipods, etc. </p><p>Having said that, I personally think that you can pay a lot less for an accurate 1K yd gun than the prices you mention and save that money to put toward the other tools of the trade that you will need. </p><p>Another .02 worth of advice is buy the best equipment you can afford the first time. I have been cheap with some things and found that they simply don't work as well as a quality item that cost more. For example, I bought a Bushnell Elite 1500 rangefinder last year. Got it for about $400, and thought that was a fair price, but the thing just wouldn't perform as well as I liked. So now it sits in my safe while the Swarovski Laserguide does everything I need it to do, but it cost a grand. I could have saved myself $400 in the long run by buying a quality product first. </p><p>I have a 7RM Savage that shoots to a grand pretty well. I have been doing upgrades on it as I go. Definitely don't get cheap with the scope or you will be sorry. As far as the 8 or 12X Nightforce, I personally think those magnifications are better suited for benchrest/target rifles. I think you will find most Nightforce guys on here use the 5.5-22X with either the 50 or 56 objective lens. I have the 56 with a set of NF rings and a NF base that works very well for me. </p><p>You want to buy something that you don't mind shooting a lot because it is much harder to hit a target at 1000yds than you may realize at this point. For me, this would mean a rifle that doesn't dislocate your shoulder when you pull the trigger and is reasonably inexpensive to reload for. </p><p>Didn't mean to write so much, but hope you could benefit a little from my .02.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CRNA, post: 592463, member: 22495"] Don't forget the other costs that go into this hobby. There's more than just the rifle, so you have to figure that into your budget. For instance, you will definitely want to hand load your own ammo at some point in time. Depending on what press, dies, scales, and all of the other gadgets and tools that go into making consistent ammo, you can have a small fortune in that alone. One thing that you are definitely going to need is a good rangefinder. Without knowing the precise range of a target, you might as well just by a belt-fed machine gun and shoot until you hit the target because that is what you would be doing one shot at a time without knowing the range. You will also need some type of ballistics calculator to get your "dope" on your scope at that range. This can be achieved for about $20 for a good ballistics app for an ipod or iphone for example. There's also chronographs, which will tell you how fast your bullet is flying (another factor to input into your ballistics calculator that is critical for knowing the bullet drops). Then stuff that some say you may or may not be able to live with like shooting mats, bipods, etc. Having said that, I personally think that you can pay a lot less for an accurate 1K yd gun than the prices you mention and save that money to put toward the other tools of the trade that you will need. Another .02 worth of advice is buy the best equipment you can afford the first time. I have been cheap with some things and found that they simply don't work as well as a quality item that cost more. For example, I bought a Bushnell Elite 1500 rangefinder last year. Got it for about $400, and thought that was a fair price, but the thing just wouldn't perform as well as I liked. So now it sits in my safe while the Swarovski Laserguide does everything I need it to do, but it cost a grand. I could have saved myself $400 in the long run by buying a quality product first. I have a 7RM Savage that shoots to a grand pretty well. I have been doing upgrades on it as I go. Definitely don't get cheap with the scope or you will be sorry. As far as the 8 or 12X Nightforce, I personally think those magnifications are better suited for benchrest/target rifles. I think you will find most Nightforce guys on here use the 5.5-22X with either the 50 or 56 objective lens. I have the 56 with a set of NF rings and a NF base that works very well for me. You want to buy something that you don't mind shooting a lot because it is much harder to hit a target at 1000yds than you may realize at this point. For me, this would mean a rifle that doesn't dislocate your shoulder when you pull the trigger and is reasonably inexpensive to reload for. Didn't mean to write so much, but hope you could benefit a little from my .02. [/QUOTE]
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