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8 twist 22” 300 Win Mag with 215 Berger Hybrids
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<blockquote data-quote="johnlittletree" data-source="post: 1522097" data-attributes="member: 105653"><p>Maybe you should consider a 30-06 in that same set-up. You have to really dial back the load from a barrel that short in a magnum. The fireball at the end of the barrel is going to be huge at times when you are not running your can! A load that worked great in my 26 in barrel had too much flash in a 22 inch barrel. Daytime might be fine but at Nautical Twilight it will be blinding. In fact I was shooting over the roof of my car at the time. The 26 inch barrel golden the 22 inch left scorch marks in the paint of the car. </p><p></p><p>I can not believe I am about to say what I am about to say! "Sigh" A 30-06 AI with a 1:8 twist 23 inches long would be about perfect. Not that I would ever do a 30-06 AI. I would just stick to 30-06. I ran into a guy at an F-Class venue a few years back that was shooting a 32 inch or 36 inch 1:8 barrel 30-06 AI he was shooting stuff you would normally expect someone to use a 30 Cal Magnum for. I think he was using a Polygonal Barrel. </p><p></p><p>I think you would be wasting powder with a 300 WM in a barrel that short. Does it matter nope. It seems odd though to waste powder and the performance of the cartridge by limiting it to a 23 inch barrel when one step backwards would be a better fit! </p><p></p><p>No animal is going to be any less dead from a 30-06. Truthfully even when I have taken shots of opportunity with way to little rifle the animal was never offended that I had taken it's life with a wimpy 243 Win or the rainbow trajectory 45-70. Thankfully I have never had any animal dead or alive talk to me! </p><p></p><p>I would let math not whims chose my cartridge. You can run 210's in an 30-06 I was shooting right next to a guy doing it at 1000m in F-Class. I doubt you will see the 2950-2850 fps with 300 Win Mag 208gr.-220gr. bullets with a 23 inch barrel. So why even put the powder in the case" It is like putting a LS-V8 in a Geo Metro or Toyota Starlet huge waste of man power, and materials because it would not hook up far better to put a more powerful 4 cylinder or V6 in it! Same thing applies here. </p><p></p><p>All of my opinion above being said the US Army's refit to M24E1 is a 24" hammer forged 5R 1:9 barrel running 300 Win Mag with a 220gr. projectile getting a claimed 2850fps. The Ammo though is grossly exceeding Saami and CPS standards. I think it goes with out saying you would have to run a can on that to keep the flash down! Not that anyone on this sight would ever run a Cold Hammer Forged barrel. LOL</p><p></p><p>That guy at the F-Class meet was not running Saami pressures I can assure you he was doing to that 30-06 AI what the Army and Navy have done to the 300 Win Mag.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="johnlittletree, post: 1522097, member: 105653"] Maybe you should consider a 30-06 in that same set-up. You have to really dial back the load from a barrel that short in a magnum. The fireball at the end of the barrel is going to be huge at times when you are not running your can! A load that worked great in my 26 in barrel had too much flash in a 22 inch barrel. Daytime might be fine but at Nautical Twilight it will be blinding. In fact I was shooting over the roof of my car at the time. The 26 inch barrel golden the 22 inch left scorch marks in the paint of the car. I can not believe I am about to say what I am about to say! "Sigh" A 30-06 AI with a 1:8 twist 23 inches long would be about perfect. Not that I would ever do a 30-06 AI. I would just stick to 30-06. I ran into a guy at an F-Class venue a few years back that was shooting a 32 inch or 36 inch 1:8 barrel 30-06 AI he was shooting stuff you would normally expect someone to use a 30 Cal Magnum for. I think he was using a Polygonal Barrel. I think you would be wasting powder with a 300 WM in a barrel that short. Does it matter nope. It seems odd though to waste powder and the performance of the cartridge by limiting it to a 23 inch barrel when one step backwards would be a better fit! No animal is going to be any less dead from a 30-06. Truthfully even when I have taken shots of opportunity with way to little rifle the animal was never offended that I had taken it's life with a wimpy 243 Win or the rainbow trajectory 45-70. Thankfully I have never had any animal dead or alive talk to me! I would let math not whims chose my cartridge. You can run 210's in an 30-06 I was shooting right next to a guy doing it at 1000m in F-Class. I doubt you will see the 2950-2850 fps with 300 Win Mag 208gr.-220gr. bullets with a 23 inch barrel. So why even put the powder in the case" It is like putting a LS-V8 in a Geo Metro or Toyota Starlet huge waste of man power, and materials because it would not hook up far better to put a more powerful 4 cylinder or V6 in it! Same thing applies here. All of my opinion above being said the US Army's refit to M24E1 is a 24" hammer forged 5R 1:9 barrel running 300 Win Mag with a 220gr. projectile getting a claimed 2850fps. The Ammo though is grossly exceeding Saami and CPS standards. I think it goes with out saying you would have to run a can on that to keep the flash down! Not that anyone on this sight would ever run a Cold Hammer Forged barrel. LOL That guy at the F-Class meet was not running Saami pressures I can assure you he was doing to that 30-06 AI what the Army and Navy have done to the 300 Win Mag. [/QUOTE]
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