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7mm08 Vs 7saum
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<blockquote data-quote="JakeC" data-source="post: 2829837" data-attributes="member: 115819"><p>"leaving on the table" isn't a fun way to frame it. You're trying to level up a short barrel, lean into that. "leaving x on the table" is a phrase that actually comes up a lot with the SAUM when people talk about neutering it by putting it in a short action, even though it's in the name. Yes it's not the most you can get out of the saum if you were to load it 3.5" long, but if you want to maximize a short action it's the way to go. It's like how people got slobbering angry when creed shooters started using 20-22" barrels. It still works great, you just lost like 25 yards off the far end. You're only going to lose, what, 300 fps? </p><p></p><p>Even if it's a little less fps per grain you're still going to be ahead of a 7mm-08 is with a 22" barrel if you put a saum in a 16" barrel I think. I feel like stressing about efficiency and blast goes out the window when you pick a project like this and put a brake on it to chase elk, no? Even a 56 is withering at 12-15", I doubt it matters between the saum and the 08. I would want to put all my chips in the game and go 30 cal for more projectile flexibility. But if you want 7mm I would submit the 150 or 168 ABLR, or even the 175ELDX out of the saum. Maybe a 150 partition. If you're not going past 400 those are all going to have great expansion but enough integrity to go deep. I think both 162s are a little soft for what you're asking. Just a slight additional liability. Wouldn't be what I would pick, I'd go harder and lighter or heavier at the same softness. Unless you go 7-08, then they're probably your best choice except maybe 140 partitions. The saum can work happily with 4350 burn rate powders at a very minimal loss and it's born for h4831. That might help with efficiency, but the 300wsm might be the better choice in general. neat project though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JakeC, post: 2829837, member: 115819"] "leaving on the table" isn't a fun way to frame it. You're trying to level up a short barrel, lean into that. "leaving x on the table" is a phrase that actually comes up a lot with the SAUM when people talk about neutering it by putting it in a short action, even though it's in the name. Yes it's not the most you can get out of the saum if you were to load it 3.5" long, but if you want to maximize a short action it's the way to go. It's like how people got slobbering angry when creed shooters started using 20-22" barrels. It still works great, you just lost like 25 yards off the far end. You're only going to lose, what, 300 fps? Even if it's a little less fps per grain you're still going to be ahead of a 7mm-08 is with a 22" barrel if you put a saum in a 16" barrel I think. I feel like stressing about efficiency and blast goes out the window when you pick a project like this and put a brake on it to chase elk, no? Even a 56 is withering at 12-15", I doubt it matters between the saum and the 08. I would want to put all my chips in the game and go 30 cal for more projectile flexibility. But if you want 7mm I would submit the 150 or 168 ABLR, or even the 175ELDX out of the saum. Maybe a 150 partition. If you're not going past 400 those are all going to have great expansion but enough integrity to go deep. I think both 162s are a little soft for what you're asking. Just a slight additional liability. Wouldn't be what I would pick, I'd go harder and lighter or heavier at the same softness. Unless you go 7-08, then they're probably your best choice except maybe 140 partitions. The saum can work happily with 4350 burn rate powders at a very minimal loss and it's born for h4831. That might help with efficiency, but the 300wsm might be the better choice in general. neat project though. [/QUOTE]
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