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7mm WSM or 7mm rem mag?
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<blockquote data-quote="FRANK21" data-source="post: 217159" data-attributes="member: 1989"><p>Savage,</p><p></p><p>The traditional mags and the short mags are not new to me. I currently own a load for 2 7mmRMs, 1- 7WSM, 1- 300WSM. I have had a number of 300WMs to boot. </p><p></p><p>Interesting you bring up the 300WM Vs 300WSM, being that I have had many 300WMs and currently have a 300WSM, I can tell you matter of factly that the WSM can NOT match the performace of the 300WM, despite my likeing the WSM better. I launched 190s over 3100FPS with a stiff charge of '22 via 26" 300WM. My 300WSM will barely eek 3000FPS with the same bullet via 29" tube. I dont have much use for 300WM factory ammo or any factory ammo for that matter, but Chronos dont lie- FGGM 190s clocked 2925avg via the said 300WM, handloads went 3100FPS. Underloaded? You be the judge.</p><p></p><p>Proper case prep, die setup, and loading is a MAJOR factor in any chambering, more so when eeking out the most in a magnum chambering. No way around it...Period.</p><p></p><p>Again, I dont much care what the BR shooters are doing with ultra trick, <1/4MOA, 30LB rifles on benches, known distance targets, wind flags, and on square ranges. Two totaly different rifle setups and shooting disaplines. By your logic everyone should be shooting PPCs, since they are the BR crowds love affair.</p><p></p><p>I hunt/shoot prone- in the mud and crud, with a bipod and bag. BR rifles need not apply. Heck, Im actually even touching my rifle when I shoot it..... I cant shoot 1/4MOA in field conditions, you cant either. .5MOA is flat assed awesome for field conditons. .75-1MOA is very good. </p><p></p><p>Item 4. Reread my post- To ME it doesnt matter, to some and for some applications, it does.</p><p></p><p>Item 5. Both of my 7mmRMs sport 28" tubes, my 7WSM sports a 27" tube, my 300WSM sports a 29" tube. Since Im a handloader, I dont worry much about SAMMI pressure specs, being they are a guide for... FACTORY loaded ammo. Like Ive said before when loaded to like pressures, the WSM and the RM will basically have duplicate velocities. That is not a guess or assumption, simply because Chronos dont lie. Again this is experience gained from loading and shooting the said cartridges, not the latest Federal ammo ballistics guide.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FRANK21, post: 217159, member: 1989"] Savage, The traditional mags and the short mags are not new to me. I currently own a load for 2 7mmRMs, 1- 7WSM, 1- 300WSM. I have had a number of 300WMs to boot. Interesting you bring up the 300WM Vs 300WSM, being that I have had many 300WMs and currently have a 300WSM, I can tell you matter of factly that the WSM can NOT match the performace of the 300WM, despite my likeing the WSM better. I launched 190s over 3100FPS with a stiff charge of '22 via 26" 300WM. My 300WSM will barely eek 3000FPS with the same bullet via 29" tube. I dont have much use for 300WM factory ammo or any factory ammo for that matter, but Chronos dont lie- FGGM 190s clocked 2925avg via the said 300WM, handloads went 3100FPS. Underloaded? You be the judge. Proper case prep, die setup, and loading is a MAJOR factor in any chambering, more so when eeking out the most in a magnum chambering. No way around it...Period. Again, I dont much care what the BR shooters are doing with ultra trick, <1/4MOA, 30LB rifles on benches, known distance targets, wind flags, and on square ranges. Two totaly different rifle setups and shooting disaplines. By your logic everyone should be shooting PPCs, since they are the BR crowds love affair. I hunt/shoot prone- in the mud and crud, with a bipod and bag. BR rifles need not apply. Heck, Im actually even touching my rifle when I shoot it..... I cant shoot 1/4MOA in field conditions, you cant either. .5MOA is flat assed awesome for field conditons. .75-1MOA is very good. Item 4. Reread my post- To ME it doesnt matter, to some and for some applications, it does. Item 5. Both of my 7mmRMs sport 28" tubes, my 7WSM sports a 27" tube, my 300WSM sports a 29" tube. Since Im a handloader, I dont worry much about SAMMI pressure specs, being they are a guide for... FACTORY loaded ammo. Like Ive said before when loaded to like pressures, the WSM and the RM will basically have duplicate velocities. That is not a guess or assumption, simply because Chronos dont lie. Again this is experience gained from loading and shooting the said cartridges, not the latest Federal ammo ballistics guide. [/QUOTE]
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