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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 489579" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>436, Your data is flawed. If you push the 7mm rem mag you can get the 2850 fps you listed with the 180 grain bullet. If you push the 300 winny to the same pressure with the 210 it gets right at 3000 fps. Input this correct data and see what the numbers show. Then input the 300 winchester with the 177 grain .638 BC quality hunting bullet at 3250 fps and see how the 300 winchester looks. Again, you are comparing apples and oranges with two completely different cartridges for which there is no comparison. Both are good cartridges for different applications. The 7mm rem is a good light rifle for deer and antelope. The 300 winchester can get you into larger animals at greater distances. </p><p> </p><p>I have over twenty 7mm's of all kinds and have taken animals beyond 1000 yards with them. I learned back in the 70's when I went to large animals at long range choose a larger caliber. Small ones will kill stuff but the larger calibers do it better. The 7mm rem mag is not a long range hunting rifle for anything beyond deer size animals. If a guy wants to do such a thing he needs to get the proper rifle. Back in the 70's I was a guru on ballistics, now forty years later I am a guru on how to kill stuff best. Don't let TV shows making perfect high shoulder shots and editing out the rest form your opinion. If I could get that shot every time I doubt I would use anything over a 6.5-284. Unfortunately hunting is not always about animals in a perfect setting in a perfect world. My gun has to make the shot in any conditions at any shot angle. There is where the difference is.</p><p> </p><p>Personally I see no reason to own a 7mm rem mag. I have two right now that never get shot. I have three 7mm cartridges based off the improved 280 and '06 cases that do everything the 7mm rem mag will do with less powder, noise and recoil. If I want a magnum 7mm I have six 7mm STW's and a 7mm-300 wby mag that far outdistance the little 7mm remington. I just can't find a use for my 7mm rem mags. They shoot great right with my improved stuff off the 280 case and when I want a magnum I have the STW's and weatherby. The rem mag just gets lost in no mans land.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 489579, member: 505"] 436, Your data is flawed. If you push the 7mm rem mag you can get the 2850 fps you listed with the 180 grain bullet. If you push the 300 winny to the same pressure with the 210 it gets right at 3000 fps. Input this correct data and see what the numbers show. Then input the 300 winchester with the 177 grain .638 BC quality hunting bullet at 3250 fps and see how the 300 winchester looks. Again, you are comparing apples and oranges with two completely different cartridges for which there is no comparison. Both are good cartridges for different applications. The 7mm rem is a good light rifle for deer and antelope. The 300 winchester can get you into larger animals at greater distances. I have over twenty 7mm's of all kinds and have taken animals beyond 1000 yards with them. I learned back in the 70's when I went to large animals at long range choose a larger caliber. Small ones will kill stuff but the larger calibers do it better. The 7mm rem mag is not a long range hunting rifle for anything beyond deer size animals. If a guy wants to do such a thing he needs to get the proper rifle. Back in the 70's I was a guru on ballistics, now forty years later I am a guru on how to kill stuff best. Don't let TV shows making perfect high shoulder shots and editing out the rest form your opinion. If I could get that shot every time I doubt I would use anything over a 6.5-284. Unfortunately hunting is not always about animals in a perfect setting in a perfect world. My gun has to make the shot in any conditions at any shot angle. There is where the difference is. Personally I see no reason to own a 7mm rem mag. I have two right now that never get shot. I have three 7mm cartridges based off the improved 280 and '06 cases that do everything the 7mm rem mag will do with less powder, noise and recoil. If I want a magnum 7mm I have six 7mm STW's and a 7mm-300 wby mag that far outdistance the little 7mm remington. I just can't find a use for my 7mm rem mags. They shoot great right with my improved stuff off the 280 case and when I want a magnum I have the STW's and weatherby. The rem mag just gets lost in no mans land. [/QUOTE]
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