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<blockquote data-quote="bdyal1972" data-source="post: 1947138" data-attributes="member: 50039"><p>I have personally opened up multiple 800-1200lb elk and 400lb bear and 300lb deer that were "DRT" dropped in their tracks with a high double lung or heart and double lung shot...</p><p></p><p>My brother and I have opined on this subject many many a time over a cigar and 3 fingers...</p><p></p><p>HYDROSTATIC shock from RAPID BULLET EXPANSION of a bullet turning THOUSANDS of revolutions a second hitting skin, meat, organs etc can never be underestimated!!!</p><p></p><p>This "Temporary wound cavity" is dropping the animal instanyaneously!!!</p><p></p><p>I have seen 225 grain x bullets with a temporary wound cavities big enough that the spinal cord was damaged a full 8" from bullet path.</p><p></p><p>I really think bullet "energy" is a useless term except for 1 caveat:</p><p></p><p>"The temporary wound cavities of a 338cal 225 x bullet impacting at 2500fps is the size of a volleyball, the temporary wound cavities of a .224 40 grain impacting at 3000fps is the size of a volleyball, the temporary wound cavities of a 30 cal 165 ballistic tip impacting at 2700fps is the size of a volleyball....</p><p></p><p>Coincidentley all of these have killed elk DRT....</p><p></p><p>THE 40 GRAIN TNT WAS FROM A POACHED ELK I DID A NECROPSY ON AND BUTCHERED UP FOR DONATION BTW...</p><p></p><p>personally for an elk I want AT MINIMUM:::</p><p></p><p>1. complete penetration broadside</p><p></p><p>2. Softball size temporary wound cavities MINIMUM</p><p></p><p>3. At least 2200fps impact velocity with a minimum of 150 grains of bullet (30-30!)</p><p></p><p>4. High double lung hit behind shoulder. If range is long I get heart too. If range is short I get spine.</p><p></p><p>All that being said....</p><p></p><p>The Berger's that come apart make the biggest temporary wound cavities I have ever seen.</p><p></p><p>The nosler ballistic tips and horanadys copies are admirable as well if impact velocities are high enough.</p><p></p><p>The 40 grain 224 TNT bullet is well known as the most effective 1 shot man stopper EVER!!!</p><p></p><p>WHY?</p><p></p><p>VOLLEYBALL SIZE TEMPORARY WOUND CAVITY IN A PERPS CHEST UNDER 100 YARDS....</p><p></p><p>APPLY THIS TO ELK...</p><p></p><p>30 CAL 180 BALLISTIC TIP IN THE BOILER ROOM AT 100YARDS</p><p></p><p>338 CALIBER AT 2700 FPS IN A 225 X, 230 WINCHESTER FAIL SAFE, 300 GAME KING OR ANY BERGER HUNTING BULLET</p><p></p><p>ALL HAVE MASSIVE TEMPORARY WOUND CAVITIES.....</p><p></p><p>MY BROTHER AND I BELIEVE THIS MASSIVE TEMPORARY WOUND CAVITY "OVERLOADS:" the central nervous system and "trips a circuit breaker" in the central nervous system when there is ENOUGH trauma to the heart/liver/lungs CONCURRENTLY. or to the spinal cord through the spinal fluid in the vertebrae....</p><p></p><p>Drops in its tracks</p><p></p><p>DRT</p><p></p><p> IF, YES IF the Central Nervous System "recovers" and this cns "breaker" resets the trauma from the PERMANENT WOUND CAVITY has caused so much blood loss (heart or lungs shredded, blood loss, liver trauma etc) the animal does not have enough oxygen in its system or blood in its arteries and veins to stand up and run....</p><p></p><p>Hence why we see so much aerated blood on the ground or snow and need to perform the coup de grace...</p><p></p><p>Just my 2 cents</p><p></p><p>Lol</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bdyal1972, post: 1947138, member: 50039"] I have personally opened up multiple 800-1200lb elk and 400lb bear and 300lb deer that were "DRT" dropped in their tracks with a high double lung or heart and double lung shot... My brother and I have opined on this subject many many a time over a cigar and 3 fingers... HYDROSTATIC shock from RAPID BULLET EXPANSION of a bullet turning THOUSANDS of revolutions a second hitting skin, meat, organs etc can never be underestimated!!! This "Temporary wound cavity" is dropping the animal instanyaneously!!! I have seen 225 grain x bullets with a temporary wound cavities big enough that the spinal cord was damaged a full 8" from bullet path. I really think bullet "energy" is a useless term except for 1 caveat: "The temporary wound cavities of a 338cal 225 x bullet impacting at 2500fps is the size of a volleyball, the temporary wound cavities of a .224 40 grain impacting at 3000fps is the size of a volleyball, the temporary wound cavities of a 30 cal 165 ballistic tip impacting at 2700fps is the size of a volleyball.... Coincidentley all of these have killed elk DRT.... THE 40 GRAIN TNT WAS FROM A POACHED ELK I DID A NECROPSY ON AND BUTCHERED UP FOR DONATION BTW... personally for an elk I want AT MINIMUM::: 1. complete penetration broadside 2. Softball size temporary wound cavities MINIMUM 3. At least 2200fps impact velocity with a minimum of 150 grains of bullet (30-30!) 4. High double lung hit behind shoulder. If range is long I get heart too. If range is short I get spine. All that being said.... The Berger's that come apart make the biggest temporary wound cavities I have ever seen. The nosler ballistic tips and horanadys copies are admirable as well if impact velocities are high enough. The 40 grain 224 TNT bullet is well known as the most effective 1 shot man stopper EVER!!! WHY? VOLLEYBALL SIZE TEMPORARY WOUND CAVITY IN A PERPS CHEST UNDER 100 YARDS.... APPLY THIS TO ELK... 30 CAL 180 BALLISTIC TIP IN THE BOILER ROOM AT 100YARDS 338 CALIBER AT 2700 FPS IN A 225 X, 230 WINCHESTER FAIL SAFE, 300 GAME KING OR ANY BERGER HUNTING BULLET ALL HAVE MASSIVE TEMPORARY WOUND CAVITIES..... MY BROTHER AND I BELIEVE THIS MASSIVE TEMPORARY WOUND CAVITY "OVERLOADS:" the central nervous system and "trips a circuit breaker" in the central nervous system when there is ENOUGH trauma to the heart/liver/lungs CONCURRENTLY. or to the spinal cord through the spinal fluid in the vertebrae.... Drops in its tracks DRT IF, YES IF the Central Nervous System "recovers" and this cns "breaker" resets the trauma from the PERMANENT WOUND CAVITY has caused so much blood loss (heart or lungs shredded, blood loss, liver trauma etc) the animal does not have enough oxygen in its system or blood in its arteries and veins to stand up and run.... Hence why we see so much aerated blood on the ground or snow and need to perform the coup de grace... Just my 2 cents Lol [/QUOTE]
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