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<blockquote data-quote="remingtonman_25_06" data-source="post: 289139" data-attributes="member: 1403"><p>My 7 RM really likes RL-22 so thats the powder I started and ended up using with the 168g VLD's.</p><p></p><p>My load was 63g RL-22, Fed 215 primer, Win case, bullet seated to just touch the rifling. I was averaging 2950-3000fps and 1/2-1 MOA to 1000 yards.</p><p></p><p>The 168g vld is a very accurate bullet and great for target shooting, but I wont use them on deer again based on my experiences with them.</p><p></p><p>I shot 1 deer at 618 yards, shoulder shot, he dropped but was not dead. He took a finishing shot. Upon inspection that 1st shot just barely broke his shoulder enough to put him down, but he was definately not out. I would say it was a total bullet failure as it blew up way to much, even at 618 yards. I was expecting it to plow through and leave a 2-3 exit hole. Not the case.</p><p></p><p>My friend used my rifle on the same hunt to shoot his buck at about 150 yards or so. He is a meat hunter and shot his buck behind the shoulder. At the shot, I instantly saw blood spouting out from behind him. He ran up the hill about 10 yards, then fell back down to where he was first standing. The bullet exited leaving a 2-3" hole and the damage inside was massive. I would say this is expectable and good performance.</p><p></p><p>The next year I decided to use the 180g vld to see if I could get better penetration. I figured it would since it weighed 12g more, had a higher SD, and was moving about 175fps slower.</p><p></p><p>Well the time came and mr muley showed up broadside 100 yards. Not exactly what I had hoped or been practicing for all year, but what the hel. I'm not one to pass up on oppurtunity so I let him have a 180g VLD behind the shoulder. He stood there like nothing freaking happened, I was in disbelief. He literally soaked up that 180g vld and just stood there like nothing happened. At that point he started walking and I put another through his shoulder. That finally anchored him. Well when I walked up to him the first thing I did was roll him over to look for exit holes. I really had to look and wasn't finding much but I knew they had to exit. Upon skinning we did find 2 exit holes but there were .284" diameter exit holes and there wasn't very much internal damage to the organs. Pretty much acted like a FMJ. Once again, not good performance from a bullet IMO.</p><p></p><p>Now everyone can ask what my problem is, I never lost an animal blah blah, thats not the point. The point is I very well could have lost my 2 deer I shot with Bergers if I wasn't able to quickly put another one in them as the 1st initial shots just weren't killing shots. The last thing I need to be worrying about is whether my bullet is going to penetrate to little or expand to much or putting it behind the shoulder or in the shoulder to get expansion. </p><p></p><p>I solved the problem by going back to Noslers and using NBT's and AB's. They give exits 95% of the time and expand 99% of the time the way there suppose to and deliver consistent and reliable performance time and time again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="remingtonman_25_06, post: 289139, member: 1403"] My 7 RM really likes RL-22 so thats the powder I started and ended up using with the 168g VLD's. My load was 63g RL-22, Fed 215 primer, Win case, bullet seated to just touch the rifling. I was averaging 2950-3000fps and 1/2-1 MOA to 1000 yards. The 168g vld is a very accurate bullet and great for target shooting, but I wont use them on deer again based on my experiences with them. I shot 1 deer at 618 yards, shoulder shot, he dropped but was not dead. He took a finishing shot. Upon inspection that 1st shot just barely broke his shoulder enough to put him down, but he was definately not out. I would say it was a total bullet failure as it blew up way to much, even at 618 yards. I was expecting it to plow through and leave a 2-3 exit hole. Not the case. My friend used my rifle on the same hunt to shoot his buck at about 150 yards or so. He is a meat hunter and shot his buck behind the shoulder. At the shot, I instantly saw blood spouting out from behind him. He ran up the hill about 10 yards, then fell back down to where he was first standing. The bullet exited leaving a 2-3" hole and the damage inside was massive. I would say this is expectable and good performance. The next year I decided to use the 180g vld to see if I could get better penetration. I figured it would since it weighed 12g more, had a higher SD, and was moving about 175fps slower. Well the time came and mr muley showed up broadside 100 yards. Not exactly what I had hoped or been practicing for all year, but what the hel. I'm not one to pass up on oppurtunity so I let him have a 180g VLD behind the shoulder. He stood there like nothing freaking happened, I was in disbelief. He literally soaked up that 180g vld and just stood there like nothing happened. At that point he started walking and I put another through his shoulder. That finally anchored him. Well when I walked up to him the first thing I did was roll him over to look for exit holes. I really had to look and wasn't finding much but I knew they had to exit. Upon skinning we did find 2 exit holes but there were .284" diameter exit holes and there wasn't very much internal damage to the organs. Pretty much acted like a FMJ. Once again, not good performance from a bullet IMO. Now everyone can ask what my problem is, I never lost an animal blah blah, thats not the point. The point is I very well could have lost my 2 deer I shot with Bergers if I wasn't able to quickly put another one in them as the 1st initial shots just weren't killing shots. The last thing I need to be worrying about is whether my bullet is going to penetrate to little or expand to much or putting it behind the shoulder or in the shoulder to get expansion. I solved the problem by going back to Noslers and using NBT's and AB's. They give exits 95% of the time and expand 99% of the time the way there suppose to and deliver consistent and reliable performance time and time again. [/QUOTE]
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