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7mm or 30 cal? Just for curiosity’s sake
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<blockquote data-quote="cabelasken" data-source="post: 2167144" data-attributes="member: 117774"><p>I belive in the 300 mags - in all forms for elk. I know thousands of elk are taken every year with 7MMs and smaller calibers, but I've seen enough elk escape or try to escape with pretty good hits with 7MMs and 6.5s. For smaller and less hardy game, the 257, 6.5, 270 and 7MMs are ideal, I even saw a bull get up from a 338 lapua and was headed to greener pastures before we caught up to it and finished the job 3/4 of a mile away from the first hit. Most will say shot placement is critical, but it is even more critical with smaller calibers. I just watched a video of a hunter using a 6.5 PRC on a nice bull at about 300 yds. He put 3 out 4 shots in a 4" circle right behind the shoulder and that bull stayed on his feet for over 20 seconds before making his death run down the hill. All 4 out the hits were what I would call killing shots. Also, this bull was feeding and not pumped up with adrenaline which makes them even harder to bring down. Almost as important to using an adequate caliber is using the proper bullet. Some of these wounded animals were from using inadequate bullets. I use tough bullets that hold together and fully penetrate from side to side 90% of the time. I've only recovered bullets on angle or straight on shots and even then the bullet had hit a major bone - shoulder or hip bone. Last year I took a cow elk with my 300. On field dressing, I discover 3 holes in the hide. The third hole was just in front of the hips from a 30 caliber - penetration was only a few inches and the remaining part of the bullet was less than 70 grains.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cabelasken, post: 2167144, member: 117774"] I belive in the 300 mags - in all forms for elk. I know thousands of elk are taken every year with 7MMs and smaller calibers, but I've seen enough elk escape or try to escape with pretty good hits with 7MMs and 6.5s. For smaller and less hardy game, the 257, 6.5, 270 and 7MMs are ideal, I even saw a bull get up from a 338 lapua and was headed to greener pastures before we caught up to it and finished the job 3/4 of a mile away from the first hit. Most will say shot placement is critical, but it is even more critical with smaller calibers. I just watched a video of a hunter using a 6.5 PRC on a nice bull at about 300 yds. He put 3 out 4 shots in a 4" circle right behind the shoulder and that bull stayed on his feet for over 20 seconds before making his death run down the hill. All 4 out the hits were what I would call killing shots. Also, this bull was feeding and not pumped up with adrenaline which makes them even harder to bring down. Almost as important to using an adequate caliber is using the proper bullet. Some of these wounded animals were from using inadequate bullets. I use tough bullets that hold together and fully penetrate from side to side 90% of the time. I've only recovered bullets on angle or straight on shots and even then the bullet had hit a major bone - shoulder or hip bone. Last year I took a cow elk with my 300. On field dressing, I discover 3 holes in the hide. The third hole was just in front of the hips from a 30 caliber - penetration was only a few inches and the remaining part of the bullet was less than 70 grains. [/QUOTE]
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