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7 WSM Short action or Long action (Savage)
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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 882240" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>You don't need the long action but if you want it go for it . It kind of defeats the purpose of the WSM because they were designed for a short action that makes the rifle more compact.</p><p></p><p>There are lots of cartridges that will out perform a WSM that will need a long action so if you want big fast bullets go with the long action and a cartridge with more powder capacity.</p><p></p><p>Also as you go up in bullet weight the powder charge goes down making more room for the bullet</p><p>in the cartridge.</p><p></p><p>As to the feeding issue- Where you start having feeding problems is when the cartridges get staggered</p><p>because they are not held in place and the round is picked up by the bolt in a different spot in the mag changing the mag tuning and sometimes allowing more than one round in front of the bolt at</p><p>one time causing miss feed.</p><p></p><p>The most common way of dealing with this situation is to install a spacer in the magazine. (Most of the high end rifles use this method instead of making a Short action.</p><p></p><p>As I have said many times you don't have to seat bullets any longer than the magazine to get accuracy or velocity no mater how heavy, or the shape or the type of the bullet.</p><p></p><p>So It is just a matter of personal likes and dis-likes whether or not to use a short action or a long action when it is not necessary.</p><p></p><p>I have had and shot long cartridges in short actions that had to be single loaded and could not be ejected as loaded (With a live round without removing the bolt).</p><p></p><p>These rifles were for long range matches 1000 yards+ and with the heavy long barrels the short action help with balance. </p><p></p><p>And know with the short mags this is not necessary to get good velocity using a heavy bullet.</p><p></p><p>So my opinion is still to stay with the short action for the WSMs and SAUMs. And remember these are discussions and in many cases are just opinions because in many cases there is more than one right way to do something and it is just a matter of preference.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 882240, member: 2736"] You don't need the long action but if you want it go for it . It kind of defeats the purpose of the WSM because they were designed for a short action that makes the rifle more compact. There are lots of cartridges that will out perform a WSM that will need a long action so if you want big fast bullets go with the long action and a cartridge with more powder capacity. Also as you go up in bullet weight the powder charge goes down making more room for the bullet in the cartridge. As to the feeding issue- Where you start having feeding problems is when the cartridges get staggered because they are not held in place and the round is picked up by the bolt in a different spot in the mag changing the mag tuning and sometimes allowing more than one round in front of the bolt at one time causing miss feed. The most common way of dealing with this situation is to install a spacer in the magazine. (Most of the high end rifles use this method instead of making a Short action. As I have said many times you don't have to seat bullets any longer than the magazine to get accuracy or velocity no mater how heavy, or the shape or the type of the bullet. So It is just a matter of personal likes and dis-likes whether or not to use a short action or a long action when it is not necessary. I have had and shot long cartridges in short actions that had to be single loaded and could not be ejected as loaded (With a live round without removing the bolt). These rifles were for long range matches 1000 yards+ and with the heavy long barrels the short action help with balance. And know with the short mags this is not necessary to get good velocity using a heavy bullet. So my opinion is still to stay with the short action for the WSMs and SAUMs. And remember these are discussions and in many cases are just opinions because in many cases there is more than one right way to do something and it is just a matter of preference. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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