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<blockquote data-quote="gregsjt" data-source="post: 1470247" data-attributes="member: 88091"><p>Come on... you're just trying to save face for your buddy. Having a belt might slightly help with extraction but if it does, it was an ancillary benefit. Extraction had nothing to do with the need for a belt in the first place. Feeding and headspacing were the primary goals. Holland and Holland wanted a case that could feed reliably from a box, i.e. rimless, but because of the body taper and shallow shoulder angle, headspacing was a problem, hence the need for a belt. </p><p></p><p>If the belt was so useful for all three aspects, feeding, headspacing and extraction, why doesn't every dangerous game cartridge have a belt? The Rigby cases don't have belts, the Jeffery cases don't have belts. Come to think of it, if a belt helps so much with extraction, why don't machine gun cartridges have belts? Seems to me extraction is important in a machine gun.</p><p></p><p>I'm always open to learning something new, so if you can point me to a specific reference I'd love to do some more reading on the subject.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gregsjt, post: 1470247, member: 88091"] Come on... you're just trying to save face for your buddy. Having a belt might slightly help with extraction but if it does, it was an ancillary benefit. Extraction had nothing to do with the need for a belt in the first place. Feeding and headspacing were the primary goals. Holland and Holland wanted a case that could feed reliably from a box, i.e. rimless, but because of the body taper and shallow shoulder angle, headspacing was a problem, hence the need for a belt. If the belt was so useful for all three aspects, feeding, headspacing and extraction, why doesn't every dangerous game cartridge have a belt? The Rigby cases don't have belts, the Jeffery cases don't have belts. Come to think of it, if a belt helps so much with extraction, why don't machine gun cartridges have belts? Seems to me extraction is important in a machine gun. I'm always open to learning something new, so if you can point me to a specific reference I'd love to do some more reading on the subject. [/QUOTE]
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