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<blockquote data-quote="Wachsmann" data-source="post: 2671670" data-attributes="member: 10429"><p>Probably your bullet opened up completely at that distance. I bet the the 608 yard shot had pulled back less and not had the same frontal diameter slowing thing down. This is also why Berger's are/can be so effective at long ranges and tend to explode or fragment at close ranges so much. Once the speed drops and the energy drops down the bullets don't open as much and will/can pernitrate deeper or have a pass through at long ranges. Years past this is the same reason a match bullet like a ELD-M or an old school AMAX can be really lethal at 800yards plus. This is also why you don't really shoot some of the supper tough all copper bullets like barns at super long ranges. Hornady specifies 2000fps on the CX bullets which limit the distance. but they are very effective inside the velocity specifications. These bullets want open at slower velocities. Even though they are a bonded bullet and hard to tune the ABLR's are supposed to work/open down to 1300fps. In gel test they do open a "little" at that velocity but its not a lot. If I was to take a shot at that low of velocity with them it would be dead smack center shoulder or just above for the high shoulder shot to hit bone. From what the internet gel testers show on average the ABLR do pretty good at minimum 1500fps. They can sometimes loose a pedestal inside normal velocities like shooting something inside 100 to 200 yards. I just watched Barbourcreek guys do a extended range (may have been 600) gel test on a HH bullet the other day. It worked pretty darn good. 2 pedals broke off and the rest penetrated through the 26 inch gel block. Gel block may have been 26 or 24 not exactly sure but it went through and had good internal gel damage. The gel block was dead on impact. Ha. But all kidding aside the dude made a great shot and the bullet worked just as it should have. Just goes to show those large animals don't wear bullet proof vest. Some where there is i believe a Long Range pursuit vid with a guy taking a Bull Moose at 600 plus with a 6.5X284 Norma. First shot locked the moose up and the second put him down completely. Both were right in the crease I believe with a 140 Berger. I dont think they had pass through but still 140grn 6.5 cal bullet. Here is another 6.5 creed at 600 yards. The second is a 243 at 688 yards.</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]IOo6gprtKeA[/MEDIA]</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]hY0w1c-gf18[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wachsmann, post: 2671670, member: 10429"] Probably your bullet opened up completely at that distance. I bet the the 608 yard shot had pulled back less and not had the same frontal diameter slowing thing down. This is also why Berger's are/can be so effective at long ranges and tend to explode or fragment at close ranges so much. Once the speed drops and the energy drops down the bullets don't open as much and will/can pernitrate deeper or have a pass through at long ranges. Years past this is the same reason a match bullet like a ELD-M or an old school AMAX can be really lethal at 800yards plus. This is also why you don't really shoot some of the supper tough all copper bullets like barns at super long ranges. Hornady specifies 2000fps on the CX bullets which limit the distance. but they are very effective inside the velocity specifications. These bullets want open at slower velocities. Even though they are a bonded bullet and hard to tune the ABLR's are supposed to work/open down to 1300fps. In gel test they do open a "little" at that velocity but its not a lot. If I was to take a shot at that low of velocity with them it would be dead smack center shoulder or just above for the high shoulder shot to hit bone. From what the internet gel testers show on average the ABLR do pretty good at minimum 1500fps. They can sometimes loose a pedestal inside normal velocities like shooting something inside 100 to 200 yards. I just watched Barbourcreek guys do a extended range (may have been 600) gel test on a HH bullet the other day. It worked pretty darn good. 2 pedals broke off and the rest penetrated through the 26 inch gel block. Gel block may have been 26 or 24 not exactly sure but it went through and had good internal gel damage. The gel block was dead on impact. Ha. But all kidding aside the dude made a great shot and the bullet worked just as it should have. Just goes to show those large animals don't wear bullet proof vest. Some where there is i believe a Long Range pursuit vid with a guy taking a Bull Moose at 600 plus with a 6.5X284 Norma. First shot locked the moose up and the second put him down completely. Both were right in the crease I believe with a 140 Berger. I dont think they had pass through but still 140grn 6.5 cal bullet. Here is another 6.5 creed at 600 yards. The second is a 243 at 688 yards. [MEDIA=youtube]IOo6gprtKeA[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]hY0w1c-gf18[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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